Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better performance than Ubuntu

Ralf Mardorf's picture

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Hi all Smile

until now switching to Debian is worth the effort. The
GNOME2 performance of Debian stable is much better than of Ubuntu.

Pulse Audio is not installed by default :).

What repositories should I use to set up a stable DAW? Btw. my list is
attached.
Is there a repository including JACK2 from svn?

Until now it's an upgraded, minimal system, just a stable install,
excepted of Evolution and dependencies, those are from testing.

At 16:40 my RME HDSPe AIO, KORG NANOKONTROL, an ADAT device and some
other stuff was delivered :), now, more than two hours later, neither
the new gear is unpacked, nor Debian stable is set up as an audio/MIDI
workstation.

But the only really annoying thing is, that I had to reboot Ubuntu
Natty, because I wasn't able to adopt the Evolution files for Debian's
Evolution.

Perhaps somebody knows what to do:

After copying
# cp
-pr /media/natty/home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution /home/spinymouse/.local/share
# cp
-pr /media/natty/home/spinymouse/.gnome2/accels/evolution /home/spinymouse/.gnome2/accels
Evolution started with a manager to set up Evolution AND TO IMPORT
FILES, so I deleted what I copied before.
Unfortunately there was no option to import files, Evolution tried to
force me to set up a new account. This is completely idiotic, because it
should be possible to simply copy the files for equal versions of
Evolution, from one to another install.

Does anybody know how to import account settings and emails, resp. what
files I need to copy?

Best,

Ralf

PS: To be fair. In several years using Linux audio/MIDI, Ubuntu Maverick
is the first completely working audio/MIDI workstation that fit to my
uncompromising needs, regarding to the usage of hardware MIDI. But it's
a no go that I'm unable to use the mouse wheel, that the DE performance
is less good etc..

For Debian I still need to set up a xorg.conf, hopefully it will keep in
good shape ;). I suspect many issues regarding to the way X is handled
today.

Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better perfo

Nuno Magalhães's picture

Hi

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 18:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> For Debian I still need to set up a xorg.conf, hopefully it will keep in
> good shape ;). I suspect many issues regarding to the way X is handled
> today.

It's usually automagically generated, unless it borks, in which case
your best approach is check the man page for an option that makes the
X server run a bunch of tests an generate a basic xorg.conf, test the
server with that file, and move on from there.

HTH,
Nuno

Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better perfo

Ralf Mardorf's picture

On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 19:19 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 18:14, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > For Debian I still need to set up a xorg.conf, hopefully it will keep in
> > good shape ;). I suspect many issues regarding to the way X is handled
> > today.
>
> It's usually automagically generated, unless it borks, in which case
> your best approach is check the man page for an option that makes the
> X server run a bunch of tests an generate a basic xorg.conf, test the
> server with that file, and move on from there.
>
> HTH,
> Nuno
>

Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better perfo

Juan R. de Silva's picture

On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:14:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> But the only really annoying thing is, that I had to reboot Ubuntu
> Natty, because I wasn't able to adopt the Evolution files for Debian's
> Evolution.
>
> Perhaps somebody knows what to do:
>
> After copying
> # cp
> -pr /media/natty/home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution
> /home/spinymouse/.local/share # cp
> -pr /media/natty/home/spinymouse/.gnome2/accels/evolution
> /home/spinymouse/.gnome2/accels Evolution started with a manager to set
> up Evolution AND TO IMPORT FILES, so I deleted what I copied before.
> Unfortunately there was no option to import files, Evolution tried to
> force me to set up a new account. This is completely idiotic, because it
> should be possible to simply copy the files for equal versions of
> Evolution, from one to another install.

Agree with every word.

> Does anybody know how to import account settings and emails, resp. what
> files I need to copy?

Well, I hit the same wall and, after spending couple of days researching
and getting some advice from this newsgroup, succeeded to import
everything. I documented the procedure for myself for the future. You
might find it not the best, but this is the only way I found. Here is the
copy from my file.

1. Restore e-mail account settings.
-----------------------------------

- Run Evolution for the first time and create a default e-mail account.
Evolution would create a tree of file and folders in home/
/.gconf/apps/evolution directory. These would contain initial
Evolution settings.

- Close Evolution.

- From terminal execute `ps ux | grep evolution` to see what Evolution
related processes are runing. Kill all of them.

- Overwrite the content of /home//.evolution/mail/ folder with
the content from the corresponding backup folder. This would bring all
your e-mails contained in their corresponding subfolders.

- From backup /home//.gconf/apps/evolution/mail/%gconf.xml file
copy content of all

  • ***
  • entries between and its
    final tag to the newly generated /home//.gconf/apps/
    evolution/mail/%gconf.xml file. For best result restart computer before
    starting Evolution.

    This would restore all your e-mail account settings. It's helpful if you
    have multiple accounts.

    2. Import Calendars.
    --------------------

    - Start Evolution

    - If you had multiple calendars in Evolution recreate empty calendars
    with the names you want (probably the same names you get used to).

    - Use File->Import menu option in Evolution to import corresponding
    calendar.ics files one at a time.

    To ensure good results restart a computer.

    3. Import Tasks.
    ----------------

    To import tasks into Evolution follow steps in pp.2 and import wanted
    tasks.ics files one at a time.

    4. Import Address Book(s).
    --------------------------

    - Start Evolution

    - Create empty Personal (exists by default), and any other address books
    you might have in Evolution.

    - Use File->Import menu option in Evolution to import corresponding
    address book files from backup (see below).

    NOTE: The address books can be exported for the backup purposes by
    executing the following commands:

    /usr/lib/evolution/2.30/evolution-addressbook-export --output=/
    full_path_to_file/file_name.vcad (or csv format supported as well)

    Unfortunatelly it seems that the format:

    evolution-addressbook-export --output=OUTPUTFILE ADDRESSBOOK_NAME is not
    supported. At least it always failed on me with an error
    "addressbook_name" not found. To export multiple addressbooks you'll need
    to open evolution and to set one of them you want to export as a default
    addressbook, then execute the command above. Then set as the default the
    next addressbook and run the command again.

    This worked for me, I hope it will work for you too.

    Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better perfo

    Ralf Mardorf's picture

    On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 19:30 +0000, Juan R. de Silva wrote:
    > On Mon, 30 May 2011 19:14:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
    >
    > > But the only really annoying thing is, that I had to reboot Ubuntu
    > > Natty, because I wasn't able to adopt the Evolution files for Debian's
    > > Evolution.
    > >
    > > Perhaps somebody knows what to do:
    > >
    > > After copying
    > > # cp
    > > -pr /media/natty/home/spinymouse/.local/share/evolution
    > > /home/spinymouse/.local/share # cp
    > > -pr /media/natty/home/spinymouse/.gnome2/accels/evolution
    > > /home/spinymouse/.gnome2/accels Evolution started with a manager to set
    > > up Evolution AND TO IMPORT FILES, so I deleted what I copied before.
    > > Unfortunately there was no option to import files, Evolution tried to
    > > force me to set up a new account. This is completely idiotic, because it
    > > should be possible to simply copy the files for equal versions of
    > > Evolution, from one to another install.
    >
    > Agree with every word.
    >
    > > Does anybody know how to import account settings and emails, resp. what
    > > files I need to copy?
    >
    > Well, I hit the same wall and, after spending couple of days researching
    > and getting some advice from this newsgroup, succeeded to import
    > everything. I documented the procedure for myself for the future. You
    > might find it not the best, but this is the only way I found. Here is the
    > copy from my file.
    >
    > 1. Restore e-mail account settings.
    > -----------------------------------
    >
    > - Run Evolution for the first time and create a default e-mail account.
    > Evolution would create a tree of file and folders in home/
    > /.gconf/apps/evolution directory. These would contain initial
    > Evolution settings.
    >
    > - Close Evolution.
    >
    > - From terminal execute `ps ux | grep evolution` to see what Evolution
    > related processes are runing. Kill all of them.
    >
    > - Overwrite the content of /home//.evolution/mail/ folder with
    > the content from the corresponding backup folder. This would bring all
    > your e-mails contained in their corresponding subfolders.
    >
    > - From backup /home//.gconf/apps/evolution/mail/%gconf.xml file
    > copy content of all

  • ***
  • entries between name="accounts" mtime="1305671823" type="list" ltype="string"> and its
    > final tag to the newly generated /home//.gconf/apps/
    > evolution/mail/%gconf.xml file. For best result restart computer before
    > starting Evolution.
    >
    > This would restore all your e-mail account settings. It's helpful if you
    > have multiple accounts.
    >
    > 2. Import Calendars.
    > --------------------
    >
    > - Start Evolution
    >
    > - If you had multiple calendars in Evolution recreate empty calendars
    > with the names you want (probably the same names you get used to).
    >
    > - Use File->Import menu option in Evolution to import corresponding
    > calendar.ics files one at a time.
    >
    > To ensure good results restart a computer.
    >
    > 3. Import Tasks.
    > ----------------
    >
    > To import tasks into Evolution follow steps in pp.2 and import wanted
    > tasks.ics files one at a time.
    >
    > 4. Import Address Book(s).
    > --------------------------
    >
    > - Start Evolution
    >
    > - Create empty Personal (exists by default), and any other address books
    > you might have in Evolution.
    >
    > - Use File->Import menu option in Evolution to import corresponding
    > address book files from backup (see below).
    >
    > NOTE: The address books can be exported for the backup purposes by
    > executing the following commands:
    >
    > /usr/lib/evolution/2.30/evolution-addressbook-export --output=/
    > full_path_to_file/file_name.vcad (or csv format supported as well)
    >
    > Unfortunatelly it seems that the format:
    >
    > evolution-addressbook-export --output=OUTPUTFILE ADDRESSBOOK_NAME is not
    > supported. At least it always failed on me with an error
    > "addressbook_name" not found. To export multiple addressbooks you'll need
    > to open evolution and to set one of them you want to export as a default
    > addressbook, then execute the command above. Then set as the default the
    > next addressbook and run the command again.
    >
    > This worked for me, I hope it will work for you too.

    Thank you very much :)!

    I flagged your email :)!

    Cheers!

    Ralf

    PS: Did you and/or should I report this to the GNOME team, Evolution
    team or somewhere else?

    Until now Debian seems to be the right decision :), better perfo

    Juan R. de Silva's picture

    On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:56:39 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

    > Thank you very much :)!
    >
    > I flagged your email :)!

    You are welcome.

    > PS: Did you and/or should I report this to the GNOME team, Evolution
    > team or somewhere else?

    I did not since I think they are more then aware of it. AFAIK this
    problem was a pain for a long time, and they seem not to bother.

    I agree in an app like this the backward compatibility is vital. It
    strange they do not take care of it. Probably lack of people force...