[debian-volatile] SA 3.2.3 available (for test purpose)

* Stephen Gran [071105 14:51]:
> This one time, at band camp, Martin Zobel-Helas said:
> > Hi,
> >
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.
>
> Just my point of view - the upgrade from etch's spamassassin to this
> version was easy. The only thing that required manual intervention was
> enabling the various new features.

I agree, I installed this version from backports.org a few months ago,
and it seemed pretty painless.

Micah

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* Stephen Gran [071105 14:51]:
> This one time, at band camp, Martin Zobel-Helas said:
> > Hi,
> >
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.
>
> Just my point of view - the upgrade from etch's spamassassin to this
> version was easy. The only thing that required manual intervention was
> enabling the various new features.

I agree, I installed this version from backports.org a few months ago,
and it seemed pretty painless.

Micah

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Stephen Gran writes:

> Just my point of view - the upgrade from etch's spamassassin to this
> version was easy. The only thing that required manual intervention was
> enabling the various new features.

Being a bit impatient, I had installed SA 3.2.1 from lenny on an
otherwise pretty clean etch installation:

bjorn@canardo:~$ apt-cache policy spamassassin
spamassassin:
Installed: 3.2.1-1
Candidate: 3.2.1-1
Package pin: (not found)
Version table:
*** 3.2.1-1 750
650 http://ftp.no.debian.org lenny/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
3.1.7-2 750
700 http://ftp.no.debian.org etch/main Packages

Upgrading from this version to spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 worked
without any problems, and exactly as I expected.

bjorn@canardo:~$ apt-cache policy spamassassin
spamassassin:
Installed: 3.2.3-0.volatile1
Candidate: 3.2.3-0.volatile1
Package pin: (not found)
Version table:
*** 3.2.3-0.volatile1 750
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
3.2.1-1 750
650 http://ftp.no.debian.org lenny/main Packages
3.1.7-2 750
700 http://ftp.no.debian.org etch/main Packages

Just in case anyone cares about that upgrade path...

Thanks a lot for supporting SA 3.2 in volatile!

Bjørn
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Hi,

On Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 08:30:46 +0000, Keith Edmunds wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:02:01 +0100, said:
>
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile.
>
> What's the repository URL for etch-proposed/volatile? I just Googled
> "etch-proposed/volatile" and got two hits, both of which were this
> announcement. I modified my existing source from etch/volatile to
> etch-proposed/volatile and got a 404. So, I'm happy to test it, but I need
> to know where to find it.

http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/pool/volatile/main/s/spamassassin/spamassassin_3.2.3-0.volatile1_all.deb

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[root@debian /root]# man real-life
No manual entry for real-life

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On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 09:48 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.
>
> I wonder if spamassassin is volatile material? It certainly fits
> backports.org (and I use the backport on production), but I have always
> thought of volatile as something with exactly the same importance and
> connotation as main.
>
> Which means that, should a volatile spamassassin upgrade change ABIs, we
> would also need to update amavisd-new, and anything else that links directly
> to spamassassin perl modules...
>
> It would feel weird to have amavisd-new in volatile.

I don't have strong feelings about it but amavisd-new is the one package
that I have always hoped to find in volatile.
but that's probably just because that would scratch MY itch.

> And it would be
> extremely wrong to have anything in volatile *break* it and NOT have an
> updated one available in volatile, so we would have to, should it happen.
> The same is valid for any other package.
>
> IMO, it is best to leave stuff like spamassassin out of volatile.
>
> --
> "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
> them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
> where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
> Henrique Holschuh
>

tinus

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> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.

On 06.11.07 09:48, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> I wonder if spamassassin is volatile material? It certainly fits
> backports.org (and I use the backport on production), but I have always
> thought of volatile as something with exactly the same importance and
> connotation as main.

Imho, SA fulfills the requirements for volatile without any problem. The
backports are here afaik for different reason.

> IMO, it is best to leave stuff like spamassassin out of volatile.

I disagree here.

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> On Mon, 05 Nov 2007, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.

On 06.11.07 09:48, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> I wonder if spamassassin is volatile material? It certainly fits
> backports.org (and I use the backport on production), but I have always
> thought of volatile as something with exactly the same importance and
> connotation as main.

Imho, SA fulfills the requirements for volatile without any problem. The
backports are here afaik for different reason.

> IMO, it is best to leave stuff like spamassassin out of volatile.

I disagree here.

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This one time, at band camp, Matus UHLAR - fantomas said:
> On 05.11.07 23:02, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.
>
> is there any plan to push that into sarge volatile?

Not from my point of view. The versioned dependency tree is just too
large for me to feel comfortable that it won't break other things on
sarge. I'm not thrilled (I still have a sarge machine that does some
mail), but I think it's the right move from the perspective of the
volatile archive and it's impact on main. That's not to say some
interested person couldn't do an upload to backports.org or something
where the rules are a little laxer.
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This one time, at band camp, Matus UHLAR - fantomas said:
> On 05.11.07 23:02, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > spamassassin 3.2.3-0.volatile1 is currently available in
> > etch-proposed/volatile. Before we accept it to etch/volatile i would
> > like to ask some experienced SysAdmins to do some (more extended testing
> > as we did) of the package and report back any problems you find to
> > .
> >
> > As soon as we are convinced that SA 3.2.3 works as expected i will
> > move the package to etch/volatile and send an official announcement.
>
> is there any plan to push that into sarge volatile?

Not from my point of view. The versioned dependency tree is just too
large for me to feel comfortable that it won't break other things on
sarge. I'm not thrilled (I still have a sarge machine that does some
mail), but I think it's the right move from the perspective of the
volatile archive and it's impact on main. That's not to say some
interested person couldn't do an upload to backports.org or something
where the rules are a little laxer.
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