volume mgmt w/o gnome

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On 12/01/07 17:42, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello. I use fluxbox most of the time. But, when I plug in my hp315
> photosmart camera, I rely upon gnome to find it, and automagically
> mount it for me. Is it possible to completely remove gnome, and just
> mount this camera (or other USB storage devices) myself? Or, and even
> better, find a utility that, sans gnome, can automagically mount the
> camera itself?

Presuming that you, as a fluxbox user who always has lots of xterms
open, log in at the console instead of the Eeeevil [xgk]dm:
- - Log into VT1 as root and run # tail -f /var/log/syslog
- - In VT2 log in as yourself and plug in the camera.
- - Flip back to VT1 and see which device it loads as (sda1, etc.)
- - run # blkid /dev/sdX1
- - Put in your /etc/fstab:
UUID="" /media/camera vfat defaults,noauto 0 2

Obviously, /media/camera must exist... Then remove the camera and
plug it in again.

Now you should be able to type:
$ mount -v /media/camera
$ ls -aFl /media/camera
$ umount -v /media/camera

If that works, purge GNOME, and fire up fluxbox.

That same technique should work for any USB or Firewire external
storage device.

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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA

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On Dec 1, 2007 3:42 PM, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello. I use fluxbox most of the time. But, when I plug in my hp315
> photosmart camera, I rely upon gnome to find it, and automagically
> mount it for me. Is it possible to completely remove gnome, and just
> mount this camera (or other USB storage devices) myself? Or, and even
> better, find a utility that, sans gnome, can automagically mount the
> camera itself?

It Depends on if the camera is a usb-mass-storage device or if it is
using one of the specialized protocols. If it is mass-storage, you just
mount it with a command like "mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb"
(mount point and device might be different). Or you can put a line in
/etc/fstab :

/dev/sda1 /media/usb auto noauto,users 0 0

Then you could just say "mount /media/usb".

If it is not mass storage, gphoto2 is the basic command line program
to use. Programs that use libgphoto2 include Digikam (KDE), F-Spot
(Gnome, Mono), gtkam (gtk), and gthumb (gtk).

I like gthumb for general light weight photo viewing and management.
There is also a FUSE file system called gphotofs, which would let a
gphoto-using camera appear on the file system, just like a mass
storage camera.

> Also, I use kmix for a volume control, because this seems the only
> application that provides a small speaker applet on the fluxbox panel
> to control sounds. I'd like to get rid of it, and the kde libs that
> accompany it. So, is there a fluxbox-specific volume control that sits
> nicely on the panel? (Preferably one that actually looks like a volume
> control, and not something gawd-awful looking?) If not, fine, I'll
> just use xmixer, or alsamixer, or something. Still, there really should
> be a something other than kmix, for a volume control, that can sit
> nicely on the fluxbox panel.

I don't know about this, but a search in aptitude for "volume" or "mixer"
ought to turn up some options.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers

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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:42:09 -0500
Mark Grieveson wrote:

> Also, I use kmix for a volume control, because this seems the only
> application that provides a small speaker applet on the fluxbox panel
> to control sounds. I'd like to get rid of it, and the kde libs that
> accompany it. So, is there a fluxbox-specific volume control that
> sits nicely on the panel? (Preferably one that actually looks like a
> volume control, and not something gawd-awful looking?)

Okay, I did figure out something for myself here. I installed
volume.app, which sits in the slit. So, while it doesn't sit on the
panel (or tray, or whatever the bottom thingy in fluxbox is called),
and, yes, it's ugly, but it's good enough to do the trick. Farewell
kmix.

Anyway, my main question, that being, ...

> Hello. I use fluxbox most of the time. But, when I plug in my hp315
> photosmart camera, I rely upon gnome to find it, and automagically
> mount it for me. Is it possible to completely remove gnome, and just
> mount this camera (or other USB storage devices) myself? Or, and
> even better, find a utility that, sans gnome, can automagically mount
> the camera itself?

... is still of interest to me.

Mark

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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:29:31 -0800
"Kelly Clowers" wrote:

> On Dec 1, 2007 6:03 PM, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > > If it is mass-storage, you just mount it with a command like "mount
> > > -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb" (mount point and device might be
> > > different). Or you can put a line in /etc/fstab :
> >
> > > /dev/sda1 /media/usb auto noauto,users 0 0
> >
> > > Then you could just say "mount /media/usb".
> >
> > Thanks for the response. when I try this, it tells me:
> >
> > mount: you must specify the filesystem type
>

I think hal also does that. It's working on my xfce with thunar file manager,
no gnome. You probably need a file/desktop manager that can get hal
notifications though (it's either that or dbus, if you know which package does
this you can probably look into it's dependencies)

> Auto should work, but the FS should be vfat, so -
>
> stand alone command:
> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/usb
> (-t means type; again, paths may be different)
>
> or in fstab:
> /dev/sda1/ /media/usb vfat noauto,users 0 0
>
> ...and then:
> mount /media/usb
>
> You can get more info with "man mount" and "man fstab"
>
>
> Cheers,
> Kelly
>
>

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> If it is mass-storage, you just mount it with a command like "mount
> -t auto /dev/sda1 /media/usb" (mount point and device might be
> different). Or you can put a line in /etc/fstab :

> /dev/sda1 /media/usb auto noauto,users 0 0

> Then you could just say "mount /media/usb".

Thanks for the response. when I try this, it tells me:

mount: you must specify the filesystem type

> If it is not mass storage, gphoto2 is the basic command line program
> to use.

gphoto2 has never worked with this camera. It has simply been
automagically mounted (via gnome) as a storarge device.

Mark

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Hello. I use fluxbox most of the time. But, when I plug in my hp315
photosmart camera, I rely upon gnome to find it, and automagically
mount it for me. Is it possible to completely remove gnome, and just
mount this camera (or other USB storage devices) myself? Or, and even
better, find a utility that, sans gnome, can automagically mount the
camera itself?

Also, I use kmix for a volume control, because this seems the only
application that provides a small speaker applet on the fluxbox panel
to control sounds. I'd like to get rid of it, and the kde libs that
accompany it. So, is there a fluxbox-specific volume control that sits
nicely on the panel? (Preferably one that actually looks like a volume
control, and not something gawd-awful looking?) If not, fine, I'll
just use xmixer, or alsamixer, or something. Still, there really should
be a something other than kmix, for a volume control, that can sit
nicely on the fluxbox panel.

Mark

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