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tar.gz and and an unlearned question!Well, this 54 newbie of Debian has spent 3 days on this tarball of seamonkey. I've had no success, though the person that told me about seamonkey gave me instructions for installation. I'm not giving up on it until it's done because I just didn't like Windows Vista at all. I do like Debian and have had fun with the beginners stuff. Now how is this for a stupid question. Can one go into the Gnome terminal and work on the seamonkey tarball when it was downloaded to the desktop? I did create another folder under usr/ for the unpacked goods. Of course nothing goes there when I run the command for it to. I'm surely doing something wrong and figure it is something simple. Simple things elude me the most and god, my learning curve isn't what it once was. Your ideas and help would be appreciated. Bookmark/Search this post with: 
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It's never too late...
...to learn the truth :-)
The way I understood you want b) something called e.g. seamonkey.tar.gz in /usr/somedir/ (that something is lying in your Desktop unintended), c) to unpack it and install from that source package (tar.gz) . a) You want a functioning seamonkey.
Before we go to b) and c), you should check if your Debian distribution has Seamonkey among already packaged binaries (much easier to install). Seamonkey is Iceape in Debian.
1) go into terminal
2) type "su" (and then type in your root password)
3) type "synaptic"
4) A Debian package manager appears (consequence of 3) )
5) click on a search button and type "iceape". Search.
6) When (if) it is found, tick iceape and then click on
Apply button. Actually it may be even already installed,
it'll have a green little box if it is.
7) Do nothing, a package management system shall install it
for you
(NOTE:
1-7 works, provided your /etc/apt/sources.list file is in
order. If not it is not difficult to set it up but you
need to know what is your version of debian stable (etch)
or testing (lenny), or unstable (sid)
END NOTE)
If you really want to install it from the tarball:
1) go to terminal and type "su" to become root
2) enter your desktop dir: "cd /home/yourusername/Desktop"
3) copy it to /usr/ : "cp seamonkeyfile.tar.gz /usr/yourdestinationdir/"
4) enter that dir : "cd /usr/yourdestinationdir"
5) for tar.gz file you do: "tar -xzvf seamonkeyfile.tar.gz".
(for tar.bz2 files do: "tar -xjvf seamonkeyfile.tar.bz2")
6) enter the dir created by tar and follow the instructions
given to you
6a) Usually it comes to:
7.1) "make configure"
7.2) "make"
7.3) "make install"
And you should definitely have a README or INSTALL file
coming in that package with detailed instructions
Thank you
I do have iceweasel, but not iceape. I just heard Seamonkey was a better browser. I did get it untarred today and like you say it did have a readme file about installation. Thank you very much for your time!! John
libstdc++
And here we go again! Wheeeeee!
Well, I got this message on the effort to install seamonkey:
/home/john/downloads/seamonkey-installer#
> > ../seamonkey-installer./seamonkey-installer-bin: error
> > while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5
Evidently the libstdc++ means that Debian, which I use, does not use the same binaries as seamonkey. As was suggested I downloaded iceape easily via Debian's synaptic downloader and am now using it.
I would imagine that libstdc++ is an across the board of distros way of telling one the binaries aren't correct for that particular distro.
Thanks, John
libstdc++
All these files beginning with lib are so called shared libraries. Various programs depend on them to exist in a system. The problem is when a certain app requires e.g. newer version of that particular library than the one installed on your system. Welcome to the world od dependencies. Debian package managment system was designed to prevent that confusion.
libaries
And here we go again! Wheeeeee!
Thank you very kindly for you explanation of libraries. I bet that is a batch of worms to get into!
libstdc++5
Hi John,
Have you installed libstdc++5?
–oldfolio
libstdc++5
And here we go again! Wheeeeee!
No, oldfolio, I haven't but I will attempt to do so
tar.gz and and an unlearned
I get this when I do "apt-cache show iceape":
Description: The Iceape Internet Suite
The Iceape Internet Suite is an unbranded Seamonkey Internet Suite suitable for free distribution.
Is there really a difference between seamonkey and its "unbranded" version? Well, aside from that "iceape" icon which looks to me like a red-faced sheep.
tar.gz and and an unlearned
I guess if somebody says "unbranded Seamonkey" it's just like an unacknowledged identical twin of Seamonkey.
Thanks!
And here we go again! Wheeeeee!
And I wish to thank all of the contributors to this question for their answers. I'm going to start another post about if there are programs that clean out internet trash as soon as I see if that's already been dealt with. I'm so unfamiliar that I don't know where the trash cookies, etc. all go. But I never liked them lingering on the OS I'm using.
tar.gz and and an unlearned
for iceape:
Edit-> Preferences
And then:
History - clear history
Cookies - Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy&S... -> Cookies
Cached files - ... -> Pref... -> Advanced -> Cache
Too convoluted, in my opinion.
Why choose the rest, if Opera browser is simply the best :-)))
Opera
Yes, I seriously thought about Opera. I liked it in the past and will have to see what it looks like now. Thanks for shaking my memory! John
Opera
Just, Opera is not distributed under GNU-like licences, meaning you can't get it using Synaptic and standard debian repositories. You need to get it independently from www.opera.com . Worry not, they have a package file for every debian distribution. When you download it, become root and do:
"dpkg -i operafile.deb"
dpkg can be used to remove it, in that case do: "dpkg -r opera"
Generally, to install packages, you should use aptitude, apt-get or Synaptic. Use dpkg for things that do not come with the Debian distribution. It is sometimes a tricky tool to use since it doesn't care about dependencies.