download & install Debian Woody to HardDisk

I want to install Debian Woody from my hard disk and the document I found told the filenames I need. But I cannot find these files: rescue.bin, linux.bin, root.bin, drivers.tgz, basedebs.tar.
Where can I find these files to download or is there a more current document? Or is there a better Debian version for doing this type of install?

I'm running Windows 98 SE and I want to dual boot with Linux.
I'm on dial-up and I don't want to burn a CD.
I have a 433 Mhz Dell Celeron/MMX, with 127 mg RAM (128 but I think 1 is used by PCI modem card or video card), 40 GB hard disk.

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download & install Debian

Do you have CD images on that hard disk? If you do, then everything necessary for the installation is on the first image. In any case, all old distributions of Debian can be found here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive#old-archive. All the files you need are in subdirs of http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/Debian-3.0/main/disks-i386/

I don't know if i would put woody on that machine. I had a similar computer with Sarge (that was the previous stable release, more recent that Woody) and it worked without a problem. AFAIK, even the most recent Debian stable version should work on your computer, provided you make some alternative choices for hungry apps like desktop environment (e.g. xfce instead of gnome).

If you can't download debian you could get a set of disks from a shop nearest to/or in your country. This is how i got my woody and then sarge (see: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/) when i was on dialup. It is usually pretty cheap (and i am not from some first world country)

Is this the location for AFAIK?

Thanks for your quick reply.
It looks like this location has everything I need and there are directions here for how to do the install the way I want to:
http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/Debian-3.0/main/disks-i386/
But is this the current AFAIK? I only need OpenOffice and xfce would be fine with me.

download & install Debian

Nothing has changed in Woody since 2002, except for security updates (and this also ended in 2006). After Woody came the Sarge. After Sarge, most recent stable Debian version is Etch. Also, not sure, but, i guess there is no Open Office in Woody (but you get an old version of KOffice maybe, and Abiword). You would need to install OO manually (if that is at all possible without significantly altering the system).
I still think it's much better to get Sarge. At least with sarge you would get Open Office version 1.1 which is still quite usable, and I think it is going to work with your computer without too much tweaking.

But where to get the right version? Is this correct?

Well I should be able to install OpenOffice later. I need to be compatible with MSOffice for Word and Excel (for communicating with others) so I think that would have to be OpenOffice 2.0. I don't expect any problem running that under Linux.
If you think I should run the latest Debian version Etch, or Sarge,, that is what I would try. I was only trying to use Woody because that is the documentation I found for installing from hard disk.
The question is, is this the location where I find the latest or is this the old archived Woody:
http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/Debian-3.0/main/disks-i386/

download & install Debian

What I gave you is the link for th old one - Woody. Just go to www.debian.org and there you'll have access to every other version of Debian for download. (See under the "Getting Debian" section). The problem is that if you have only dialup internet access, downloading the minimal cca. 700MB for a usable configuration is not an option. If you can obtain the CDs with Sarge I would rather install Sarge if I was in your place.

I think I found what I need now.

It's not really a workable option for me to do it from CD. I already have a Ubuntu CD which they mail free of charge but it will not run on my computer because it requires 258 RAM. Also, if I can get Linux working on my Dell then I would also like to put it on my old 486 and that doesn't have a CD.

Actually, by following the main page to Getting Debian there are some options to download the current Etch version, that I can do by floppy or hard disk. So it seems that would be the way for me to go. I guess I just need to decide if I should do it by floppy or hard disk. Well, thanks for your help.

I think I found what I need now.

There is a lot of information on how to install on the main Debian site (www.debian.org) - even if it is not always easy to find the information you want. Also have a look at the online installation manual; it may give you references to other web pages to read.

If you can, install from HD rather than floppy - installing from floppy takes a very long time and is very frustrating.

Since you have an Ubuntu CD, it is actually possible to boot from the CD and install normal Debian. See the "debootstrap" guide in the Debian documentation; there may also be other web pages or blogs out there describing the whole process of booting from Ubuntu and installing Debian via debootstrap.

I cannot boot from the Ubuntu CD because I only have 128 RAM

I found the Debian Install Documentation now. And where to download the files.
I suppose the hard disk install is the way to go.

using grub to install etch from hard disk but stops

I'm trying to install etch onto my hard disk, without using a CD.
I'm using grub to start linux and this is the section of the menu.lst file.

title find and boot Linux with menu.lst
fallback 1
find --set-root /boot/vmlinuz
savedefault --wait=2
configfile /boot/menu.lst

I have also tried the bootimg.gz, initrd.gz, and the .iso file.

It does boot Windows 98

It prints a few messages to the screen, the last thing it prints is:
starting cmain()
then the grub menu comes on the screen again.

Anyone know what commands I need to give grub to get the install to begin?

Here are the two manuals I am using to install debian onto my hard disk and using my hard disk.

http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/
Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide

http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html

They both say I can start the installer with grub but they don't give the commands I need to give to grub

Otherwise I will have to try from floppy.

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