No X-Window loads after log-in

OK, so I'm probably looking at a hardware issue, but just in case...
Using Sarge 31.3 install on a P3, plenty of RAM & HDD
Using an ATI AGP video card
Downloaded all 18 CD images & burned to CD
Have tried (3) different video configurations
each time same results,
after log-in for 1st time, wither as user or root,
I get either ~$ or ~#, neither KDE or GNU load to an XWindow, which is what I want
When I install Suse Linux on the system using KDE, it works fine. I don't want Suse at this time, I want the Debian :)
Help!
Dan

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additional info

saw a similar thread, thought to add additional info
when I tried to start the x session manually, I get a splash screen stating "Xsession unable to start xsession no "root/,xsession" file... no session managers, no window manage terminal emulator" close out... go home, have a cookie
tried "apt-get install x-aindow system" as root, reply was could't find package x-window"
Dan

load info from your other CDs

use 'apt-cdrom add' to add at least CD2 and CD3 to your repository list, then do 'apt-get update' and then try to install the x-window-system package again.

You might also want to try loading the various X packages by using aptitude:

apt-get install aptitude

Then run aptitude and spend some time reading the descriptions of the packages and so on. You will need the X11 'common' package, 'server', and 'client' - you will also need a window manager (like gnome/kde/xfce4/blackbox/icewm/etc) and it's convenient to have a desktop manager to start up X and your window manager. 'xdm' is very basic, use 'gdm' if you installed gnome or 'kdm' if you installed kde. gdm and kdm are set up to launch just about any window manager you've installed, but they are very bloated managers so I wouldn't recommend that you install either of them unless you've installed gnome or kde.

Other CD loads

I would have thought that the initial install w/h worked with selecting workstation / desktop install, niet!
I tried your suggestion on another thread by doing tasksel, that had no additional favorable results
I have been doing the apt-get install that you outlined also;
update, x-window-system, gnome kde xfce4, gdm & will try the gdm start after
What am I missing here?
I thought this was going to be easier than old installs?
This is even worse than either Suse, Redhat or Mandrake.
At least with them I got a clean install on the 1st shot. It took a little configuring but heck I even got them doing ICA seszions in a day. Where might I find additional information as to what modules I need to install manually? Sorry about all the questions, it's odd that it seems like Debian took a step back in all this. Perhaps it's just me being a neophyte still
Dan

x-window, gdm

well, doing what was outlined in the above POA, it came up, but the graphics were all wrong, I believe because I defaulted to VGA insteat of ATI, I am going to do the install over again.
Can I option as to weather I can log in through non graphic or graphic in startup?
I'm sure there is a way to do so, but not sure as to how best to do so.
I'll reload everything in the interum (sp)
Thanks again,
Dan

no real need to reload -

unless you decided you accidentally loaded up too much useless stuff. Otherwise edit the /etc/X11/XF86COnfig-4 file and look for 'Driver' under the video section and put in 'ati'. Oops - no - not quite. If you have an ATI9600 and earlier you can use the 'ati' driver - otherwise you need to download and link ATI's proprietary driver (ask for more info if you do).

As for the GUI not immediately coming up - well it's because not everything can be stuffed onto CD1. Historically it was GNOME and XF86 on CD1 and when KDE was finally declared 'free' it was on either CD2 or CD3. Now GNOME, X11, and KDE are even more bloated than ever (sorry... 'feature rich') and there's not much more than the base system on CD1. The base system is also substantially bloated and now takes about 250MB - that's almost half your CD gone just for the 'base'! I think the latest Debian releases are really more apt to be run from DVD rather than CD. Either that or via network install - but network install is a painful nuisance unless you have a very fast and very reliable network.

Debian Install

Pinniped,
Thanks for the information
I found the ATI driver was sufficient for the system I am testing all this on. After getting a clean install, I over-wrote it with an Ubuntu Debian install. It had 1 main CD & a 2nd CD for add'l apps. It seemed to be what I have benn looking for. I've got a couple of other ones I am going to try also. I hope to find on I can share w/ my associates. Goal is to offer up something that can work on a global WAN & not be too hard on the end user. Language support is a key factor here too.
Best regards,

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