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Hi!

I'm new on the linux world and i want to konw if there is a serious alternative to kde and gnome. I agree that the're amazingly beatifull, customizable and bla, bla bla bla... but i'm disappointed in one way?

Why i can't remove kmail without uninstalling kde? (I use thunderbird) The list would follow until the infinite (except for k3b and few other programs).

Which window manager (not gnome or kde) should i use? I've read somewhere that applications written for kde and gnome would not run "correctly" in other window manager.

Thanks

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It might not be all that bad

Submitted by cammoblammo on Sat, 2006-11-11 05:09.

First of all, there's no reason in this day and age why KDE and Gnome apps shouldn't run in each other. Depending on how you've got your themes and so on set up they might look out of place, but they should run perfectly well.

Second, if removing kmail says it is going to remove kde you might be in luck --- have a look at what else it says it will remove. In this case 'kde' probably isn't the whole shebang but a metapackage that pulls in all of the components of a KDE install. Just make sure it doesn't remove anything you know you want to keep.

Finally, to answer your question, there are plenty of good WMs out there. I use IceWM, which is pretty light but highly configurable. FVWM is also popular, as is xfce (which is a 'desktop' environment as well as a WM.) I also like blackbox, and when I want my eyes tickled I use Enlightenment. All of these will run KDE and Gnome apps.

The great thing about GNU/Linux (and Debian in particular) is the amount of choice you have. Try 'em all --- you're only limited by disk size and bandwidth!

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Use Aptitude and XFCE-4

Submitted by MagnusBerg on Sat, 2006-11-11 08:26.

About dependencies between Kmail and KDE:
Use Aptitude and fiddle with it to learn it, and to mark Kmail to keep it installed on its own without the need for the hole KDE collection to be installed.
A real short howto:
Then you start Aptitude and look at Kmail the Kmail line I suppose you see "i A" at the left. Mark the Kmail line and hit the + sign on your keyboard. Now I suppose that you only see "i" at the left. Now you will be able to remove the KDE collection except the package that Kmail needs to work and I suppose a few that it doesn't need but recommend. You can remove the recommended package as well and set Aptitude to not include recommended package in the settings dialog.

At last I suggest that you take a deep look at XFCE-4 at www.xfce.org.

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