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John the Ripper in Etch?Hi, I just noticed that John the Ripper dropped off Etch and there is no visible activity from its mailntainer to bring it back. As Etch is nearing, does it mean john will not be part of it? How are we going to demonstrate our users their weak passwords? The only alternative I found in Etch is crack, obsolete since the last millenium or so. Frank __________________________________________________ Bookmark/Search this post with: 
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John the Ripper in Etch?
On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 04:34:36AM -0800, Frank Bauer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just noticed that John the Ripper dropped off Etch and there is no visible activity from its mailntainer to bring it back.
>
Check bug #375850 [0].
> As Etch is nearing, does it mean john will not be part of it?
>
It appears that maintainer has not bothered to fix the bug.
> How are we going to demonstrate our users their weak passwords? The only alternative I found in Etch is crack, obsolete since the last millenium or so.
>
Use the upstream version or backport the package yourself from Sid?
Regards,
-Roberto
[0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375850
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John the Ripper in Etch?
perhaps it will have
to be added in manually?
operator
Frank Bauer wrote:
Hi,
I just noticed that John the Ripper dropped off Etch and there is no visible activity from its mailntainer to bring it back.
As Etch is nearing, does it mean john will not be part of it?
How are we going to demonstrate our users their weak passwords? The only alternative I found in Etch is crack, obsolete since the last millenium or so.
Frank
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John the Ripper in Etch?
On Tue, 2006-12-26 at 12:04 -0500, operator wrote:
> perhaps it will have to be added in manually?
> operator
>
> Frank Bauer wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just noticed that John the Ripper dropped off Etch and there is no
> > visible activity from its mailntainer to bring it back.
> >
> > As Etch is nearing, does it mean john will not be part of it?
> >
> > How are we going to demonstrate our users their weak passwords? The
> > only alternative I found in Etch is crack, obsolete since the last
> > millenium or so.
PLEASE OH PLEASE DROP THE HTML COLORING.
iT IS EXCEPTIONALLY ANNOYING. Blacklisting is sure to be the result...
That or a twit file.
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John the Ripper in Etch?
On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 02:22 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> PLEASE OH PLEASE DROP THE HTML COLORING.
I agree, but to be fair, it's a multi-part message, so your mail reader
should be able to to only display the text/plain part. I only wish
Evolution would support this :(
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John the Ripper in Etch?
On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 01:16:49PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 02:22 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > PLEASE OH PLEASE DROP THE HTML COLORING.
>
> I agree, but to be fair, it's a multi-part message, so your mail reader
> should be able to to only display the text/plain part. I only wish
> Evolution would support this :(
what are you guys seeing? All I see is a two slashes surrounding the
text, annoying, but not bad. I'm using mutt. Sometimes I'll see
various html tags, but I saw none in that one.
A
John the Ripper in Etch?
> > On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 02:22 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > > PLEASE OH PLEASE DROP THE HTML COLORING.
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 01:16:49PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > I agree, but to be fair, it's a multi-part message, so your mail reader
> > should be able to to only display the text/plain part. I only wish
> > Evolution would support this :(
sending HTML mail is denied in debian lists according to
http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct, however multipart
messages are not mentioned there :(
On 27.12.06 10:18, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> what are you guys seeing? All I see is a two slashes surrounding the
> text, annoying, but not bad. I'm using mutt. Sometimes I'll see
> various html tags, but I saw none in that one.
this was in original message header:
perhaps it will have
to be added in manually?
i think that IS coloring...
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John the Ripper in Etch?
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 12:57:26AM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2006-12-27 at 02:22 -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> > > > PLEASE OH PLEASE DROP THE HTML COLORING.
>
> > On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 01:16:49PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> > > I agree, but to be fair, it's a multi-part message, so your mail reader
> > > should be able to to only display the text/plain part. I only wish
> > > Evolution would support this :(
>
> sending HTML mail is denied in debian lists according to
> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct, however multipart
> messages are not mentioned there :(
>
> On 27.12.06 10:18, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > what are you guys seeing? All I see is a two slashes surrounding the
> > text, annoying, but not bad. I'm using mutt. Sometimes I'll see
> > various html tags, but I saw none in that one.
>
> this was in original message header:
>
>
> perhaps it will have
> to be added in manually?
>
> i think that IS coloring...
I'm not doubting you, I was just curious as mutt tends to ignore all
that stuff, or use l[iy]nks to output the html message as plain text
and didn't see anything to indicate that it was there. thanks
A
John the Ripper in Etch?
On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 04:34:36AM -0800, Frank Bauer wrote:
Hi,
> I just noticed that John the Ripper dropped off Etch and there is no visible activity from its mailntainer to bring it back.
>
> As Etch is nearing, does it mean john will not be part of it?
Looks like that. It has been removed because of this bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375850
> How are we going to demonstrate our users their weak passwords?
> The only alternative I found in Etch is crack, obsolete since the
> last millenium or so.
Well it's quite late now for a package takeover and reintroduction for
etch. When someone has picked up the package and uploaded a fixed version
it should be easy to create a backport for etch. Until that happens you
can of course use the partly broken package from unstable or just compile
from source.
Sven
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