new to debian but having installation problems

Hello,

I'm new to debian, but not to linux.  I've been using Gentoo for the past 6 years or so, but I'm getting tired of having to make sure any new updates aren't going to destroy my systems.  I'm just wanting a system I can use instead of babysit.  So I was going to try debian out because of apt-get, and the fact that it has releases instead of having major updates released on live systems.


So anyways, I grabbed the netinst install cd and boot to it, only to find out that it can't find my e1000 ethernet card...?  Is there some kind of known problem with this card and the netinst cd or something?  I can use it without any problems in Gentoo and windows.


Any help would be appreciated!

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new to debian but having installation problems

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:05:09PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to debian, but not to linux. I've been using Gentoo for the past 6
> years or so, but I'm getting tired of having to make sure any new updates
> aren't going to destroy my systems. I'm just wanting a system I can use
> instead of babysit. So I was going to try debian out because of apt-get,
> and the fact that it has releases instead of having major updates released
> on live systems.
>

Welcom to the wonderful world of Debian!

> So anyways, I grabbed the netinst install cd and boot to it, only to find
> out that it can't find my e1000 ethernet card...? Is there some kind of
> known problem with this card and the netinst cd or something? I can use it
> without any problems in Gentoo and windows.
>
Which netinst CD did you download? Which e1000 card do you have? Maybe
the output of `lspci -vvv` showing the section for that card?

> Any help would be appreciated!

Regards,

-Roberto
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new to debian but having installation problems

On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <roberto@connexer.com> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:05:09PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to debian, but not to linux.  I've been using Gentoo for the past 6
> years or so, but I'm getting tired of having to make sure any new updates

> aren't going to destroy my systems.  I'm just wanting a system I can use
> instead of babysit.  So I was going to try debian out because of apt-get,
> and the fact that it has releases instead of having major updates released

> on live systems.
>

Welcom to the wonderful world of Debian!


Thanks! 

> So anyways, I grabbed the netinst install cd and boot to it, only to find
> out that it can't find my e1000 ethernet card...?  Is there some kind of
> known problem with this card and the netinst cd or something?  I can use it

> without any problems in Gentoo and windows.
>
Which netinst CD did you download?  Which e1000 card do you have?  Maybe
the output of `lspci -vvv` showing the section for that card?

> Any help would be appreciated!


Regards,

-Roberto
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Thanks for the prompt response!

I'm using the i386 netinst.  The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit ethernet pro.  When I boot to the cd and go into a second terminal, lspci doesn't run.  I guess it doesn't come with the netinst livecd.

new to debian but having installation problems

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
>
> Thanks for the prompt response!
>
> I'm using the i386 netinst. The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit
> ethernet pro. When I boot to the cd and go into a second terminal, lspci
> doesn't run. I guess it doesn't come with the netinst livecd.

Did you get the Sarge, Etch or Sid netinst? Do you have Gentoo
installed on the system? If so, use that to run lspci. If not, do you
have a LiveCD (Knoppix or something like that) that you can use?

Regards,

-Roberto

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new to debian but having installation problems

On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <roberto@connexer.com> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
>
> Thanks for the prompt response!
>
> I'm using the i386 netinst.  The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit
> ethernet pro.  When I boot to the cd and go into a second terminal, lspci

> doesn't run.  I guess it doesn't come with the netinst livecd.

Did you get the Sarge, Etch or Sid netinst?  Do you have Gentoo
installed on the system?  If so, use that to run lspci.  If not, do you

have a LiveCD (Knoppix or something like that) that you can use?

Regards,

-Roberto

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I got the i386 stable.. which I think is sarge? (i'm not caught up on the lingo yet :P)  Here's the url I used:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r4/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r4-i386-netinst.iso

Anyways, I still have Gentoo on that machine, and lspci just tells me that it's an Intel 1000Gigabit Ethernet Pro.  I'm not at the machine now to copy it verbatim, but it uses the e1000 driver in the kernel.  The install cd has that module in the list of modules for network cards, but the installer says it can't find the card.  I can try to tinker with it when I get home in about 20 minutes.  With my kind of luck, I prolly just need to modprobe it instead of rely on the installer to find it >.>

new to debian but having installation problems

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:36:57PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> I got the i386 stable.. which I think is sarge? (i'm not caught up on the
> lingo yet :P) Here's the url I used:
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r4/i386/iso-cd/debian-31r4-i386-netinst.iso
>
Etch will be release Any Day Now(TM), so you probably want to use that
instead. The kernel in Sarge is quite old. Etch has a much more
current kernel with more up to date drivers.

> Anyways, I still have Gentoo on that machine, and lspci just tells me that
> it's an Intel 1000Gigabit Ethernet Pro. I'm not at the machine now to copy
> it verbatim, but it uses the e1000 driver in the kernel. The install cd has
> that module in the list of modules for network cards, but the installer says
> it can't find the card. I can try to tinker with it when I get home in
> about 20 minutes. With my kind of luck, I prolly just need to modprobe it
> instead of rely on the installer to find it >.>

I am guessing that trying Etch will solve the problem. If not, you will
likely need to provide the verbatim output of lspci.

Regards,

-Roberto

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new to debian but having installation problems

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:36:57PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >
> >On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for the prompt response!
> >>
> >> I'm using the i386 netinst. The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit
> >> ethernet pro. When I boot to the cd and go into a second terminal,
> >lspci
[...]
>
> Anyways, I still have Gentoo on that machine, and lspci just tells me
> that
> it's an Intel 1000Gigabit Ethernet Pro. I'm not at the machine now to
> copy
> it verbatim, but it uses the e1000 driver in the kernel. The install cd

not sure exactly which 2.6.8 kernel is in the sarge install, but I
still have 2.6.8-2 hanging around and it has the e1000 module, so
probably a 'linux26' when booting the installer would do it. if not,
then the etch install definitely will.

A

new to debian but having installation problems

On 12/31/06, Andrew Sackville-West <andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:36:57PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> On 12/30/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <roberto@connexer.com> wrote:
> >
> >On Sat, Dec 30, 2006 at 11:20:41PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:

> >>
> >> Thanks for the prompt response!
> >>
> >> I'm using the i386 netinst.  The ethernet card is an intel 1000gigabit
> >> ethernet pro.  When I boot to the cd and go into a second terminal,

> >lspci
[...]
>
> Anyways, I still have Gentoo on that machine, and lspci just tells me
> that
> it's an Intel 1000Gigabit Ethernet Pro.  I'm not at the machine now to
> copy

> it verbatim, but it uses the e1000 driver in the kernel.  The install cd

not sure exactly which 2.6.8 kernel is in the sarge install, but I
still have 2.6.8-2 hanging around and it has the e1000 module, so

probably a 'linux26' when booting the installer would do it. if not,
then the etch install definitely will.

A



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Thanks for the tips!  I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and installed fine.  The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed.  The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all.  It looks like to do this, I need to have a custom kernel so the driver from nvidia can build a module for it.  Might there be an easier way to do this?

new to debian but having installation problems

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> >
> >
> Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and
> installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed.
> The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all. It looks
> like to do this, I need to have a custom kernel so the driver from nvidia
> can build a module for it. Might there be an easier way to do this?

yup. install the nvidia-kernel package appropriate for your
system. you will have to add the 'non-free' repository to your
sources.list.

edit /etc/apt/sources.list
you will find a line like

deb http://somemirror.here.org/debian/ etch main

add to the end of that line "contrib non-free" without the quotes

deb http://somemirror.here.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

use your favorite package manager to update the cache

apt-get update
aptitude update
etc.

apt-cache search nvidia-kernel and check out the various
packages. probably you want nvidia-kernel-2.6- or
nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6-

enjoy

A

new to debian but having installation problems

Yes!  That's exactly what I was looking for.  I also had to install the nvidia-glx package to allow xorg to use the driver.  Thanks a lot!

On 12/31/06,
Andrew Sackville-West
<andrew@farwestbilliards.com> wrote:

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> >
> >
> Thanks for the tips!  I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and
> installed fine.  The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed.

> The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all.  It looks
> like to do this, I need to have a custom kernel so the driver from nvidia
> can build a module for it.  Might there be an easier way to do this?


yup. install the nvidia-kernel package appropriate for your
system. you will have to add the 'non-free' repository to your
sources.list.

edit /etc/apt/sources.list
you will find a line like


deb http://somemirror.here.org/debian/ etch main

add to the end of that line "contrib non-free" without the quotes

deb
http://somemirror.here.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

use your favorite package manager to update the cache

apt-get update
aptitude update
etc.

apt-cache search nvidia-kernel and check out the various

packages. probably you want nvidia-kernel-2.6-<arch> or
nvidia-kernel-legacy-2.6-<arch>

enjoy

A


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new to debian but having installation problems

On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 11:24:03AM -0600, Mike Myers wrote:
> >
> Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and
> installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed.
> The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all. It looks
> like to do this, I need to have a custom kernel so the driver from nvidia
> can build a module for it. Might there be an easier way to do this?

You can use a stock kernel just fine:

http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/

Regards,

-Roberto

--
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http://people.connexer.com/~roberto
http://www.connexer.com

new to debian but having installation problems

On Sunday 31 December 2006 12:24, Mike Myers wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tips! I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and
> installed fine. The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed.
> The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all. It looks
> like to do this, I need to have a custom kernel so the driver from nvidia
> can build a module for it. Might there be an easier way to do this?

m-a update
m-a prepare
m-a a-i nvidia

modconf
-> select and load the nvidia module

m-a stands for the module-assistant. The above procedure requires for you to
have contrib non-free (along with main) added to your apt-get mirrors in
the /etc/apt/sources.list

You will need to do this every time you update your kernel.

hth
raju

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On 1/1/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi <kamaraju@bluebottle.com> wrote:

On Sunday 31 December 2006 12:24, Mike Myers wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tips!  I downloaded the etch cd and it detected my card and
> installed fine.  The only issue now is getting the nvidia driver installed.

> The 'nv' driver doesn't work with my widescreen display at all.  It looks
> like to do this, I need to have a custom kernel so the driver from nvidia
> can build a module for it.  Might there be an easier way to do this?


m-a update
m-a prepare
m-a a-i nvidia

modconf
  -> select and load the nvidia module

m-a stands for the module-assistant. The above procedure requires for you to
have contrib non-free (along with main) added to your apt-get mirrors in

the /etc/apt/sources.list

You will need to do this every time you update your kernel.

hth
raju

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That's good to know!  What is all that doing behind the scenes?  I'm
used to loading the module manually and adding a line in
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-
2.6 so it is loaded while booting up.  So I would just do like,

modprobe nvidia; echo "nvidia" >> /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6;

and be done.  If you can point me to where I can RTFM that'd be awsome, heh.  Thanks!

new to debian but having installation problems

On Monday 01 January 2007 02:24, Mike Myers wrote:
> On 1/1/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> >
> > m-a update
> > m-a prepare
> > m-a a-i nvidia
> >
> > modconf
> > -> select and load the nvidia module
> >
> > m-a stands for the module-assistant. The above procedure requires for you
> > to
> > have contrib non-free (along with main) added to your apt-get mirrors in
> > the /etc/apt/sources.list
> >
> > You will need to do this every time you update your kernel.
> >
> > hth
> > raju
> >
>
> That's good to know! What is all that doing behind the scenes? I'm used
> to loading the module manually and adding a line in
> /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel- 2.6 so it is loaded while booting up. So I
> would just do like,
>
> modprobe nvidia; echo "nvidia" >> /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6;
>
> and be done. If you can point me to where I can RTFM that'd be awsome,
> heh. Thanks!

the modconf command essentially does what you would be doing with modprobe,
but in a "GUI" way. Both modconf, m-a are explained in their man pages (not
very clear but good enough if you know what they do).

Documentation on nvidia can be found at
http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html

It has been a long time since I have looked at these, so there might be other
new documents as well.

raju

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On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 02:10:40PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> On Monday 01 January 2007 02:24, Mike Myers wrote:
> > On 1/1/07, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > >
> > > m-a update
> > > m-a prepare
> > > m-a a-i nvidia
> > >
> > > modconf
> > > -> select and load the nvidia module

> the modconf command essentially does what you would be doing with modprobe,
> but in a "GUI" way. Both modconf, m-a are explained in their man pages (not
> very clear but good enough if you know what they do).
>
> Documentation on nvidia can be found at
> http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
>

I'm using amd64 Etch.

I'm using nVIDIA EN7300GT silent and I'm using the nvidia driver since I
want to use hardware playback not software. If I remember right, here's
how I did it (it wasn't painful at all in fact it was so simple it
didn't stick in my head too well):

Get x working with the nv driver.

Manually copy xorg.conf to xorg.conf.nv (later steps do
something similar but I'm paranoid)

install: (remember to have contrib and non-free in
/etc/apt/sources.list)
nvidia-glx

(in my case) nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 (the generic nvidia
kernel package that matches the generic kernel package,
both depend on the most recent kernel, great for
updates).

nvidia-settings

nvidia-xconfig

read all the man pages and docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia*

run nvidia-xconfig
it alters your xorg.conf file and gets everything ready
to run with the new module. Module loading happens
automatically.

I never needed to use modconf or module-assistant or the source.

Good luck.

Doug.

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new to debian but having installation problems

On 12/30/2006 11:05 PM, Mike Myers wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to debian, but not to linux. I've been using Gentoo for the past 6
> years or so, but I'm getting tired of having to make sure any new updates
> aren't going to destroy my systems. I'm just wanting a system I can use
> instead of babysit. So I was going to try debian out because of apt-get,
> and the fact that it has releases instead of having major updates released
> on live systems.
>
> So anyways, I grabbed the netinst install cd and boot to it, only to find
> out that it can't find my e1000 ethernet card...? Is there some kind of
> known problem with this card and the netinst cd or something? I can use it
> without any problems in Gentoo and windows.
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>

My advice, part 1: See if the e1000 is recognized when you boot with the
linux26 boot option. That uses a more recent kernel that recognizes a
little more hardware.

My advice, part 2: Use Etch. Etch is *far* more up-to-date than Sarge,
and Etch will become the new "Stable" soon, and Etch certainly accepts
more hardware than Sarge.

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