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I've installed debian etch(daily built). And i gotta sayit's impressive. Now i have a problem. The problem isrelated to the display of fonts on screen. Fonts thatare displayed on screen are partly blurry and partly ok.
Even the cursor is like that. Is it possible to fix this?Thanks.--David

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by Douglas Tutty on Wed, 2007-01-31 21:00.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:00:42PM -0500, David Shultz wrote:
> I've installed debian etch(daily built). And i gotta say
> it's impressive. Now i have a problem. The problem is
> related to the display of fonts on screen. Fonts that
> are displayed on screen are partly blurry and partly ok.
> Even the cursor is like that. Is it possible to fix this?
>

Is this console screen or Xorg?

LCD or CRT?
Sub-pixel rendering?

If Xorg:
is it only the fonts?

What window manager or desktop environment?

All apps or just some?

What happens if you change the fonts, toggle anti-aliasing,
toggle hinting (as available).

Doug.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by David Shultz on Wed, 2007-01-31 21:00.

> Is this console screen or Xorg?It's Xorg> LCD or CRT?LCD LG's L204WT model> is it only the fonts?Yes.> What window manager or desktop environment?
Gnome> All apps or just some?Wherever the fonts are displayed.> What happens if you change the fonts, toggle> anti-aliasing, toggle hinting (as available).I tried that but no luck. I even turned on
nvidia's antialiasing but still have the sameproblem.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by David Shultz on Wed, 2007-01-31 21:00.

> If Xorg:>        is it only the fonts?Sorry I gave wrong info. It's also the image. It really hurts myeyes.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by Douglas Tutty on Wed, 2007-01-31 22:00.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:57:22PM -0500, David Shultz wrote:
> >If Xorg:
> > is it only the fonts?
>
> Sorry I gave wrong info. It's also the image. It really hurts my
> eyes.

Well at least you know its not a fonts problem.

When you configured Xorg did you tell it to do sub-pixel rendering on
your LCD screen? I've never used an LCD so don't know what this looks
like).

What happens if you Ctrl-Alt-KP+/- to change screen resolution?

What is the native resolution of the screen itself and what is
the resolution you're trying to use in Xorg?

Doug.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by David Shultz on Wed, 2007-01-31 22:00.

First of all a little bit of development. I changed the verticalrefresh rate(on Gnome) from 50 to 57 Hz. And what you know nowit is a lot better but not 100%. Now i'm using 1680x1050 resolution but LG's recommended resolution is 60 Hz. Is it
possible to change vertical refresh rate to 60Hz system wide?> When you configured Xorg did you tell it to do sub-pixel > rendering on your LCD screen?  I've never used an LCD so > don't know what this looks like).
actually i don't know how i answered that(sorry i'm a newbie)> What is the native resolution of the screen itself and what> is the resolution you're trying to use in Xorg?My monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050 and i'm using that.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by Douglas Tutty on Thu, 2007-02-01 00:00.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 09:55:08PM -0500, David Shultz wrote:
> First of all a little bit of development. I changed the vertical
> refresh rate(on Gnome) from 50 to 57 Hz. And what you know now
> it is a lot better but not 100%. Now i'm using 1680x1050
> resolution but LG's recommended resolution is 60 Hz. Is it
> possible to change vertical refresh rate to 60Hz system wide?
>
> >When you configured Xorg did you tell it to do sub-pixel
> >rendering on your LCD screen? I've never used an LCD so
> >don't know what this looks like).
>
> actually i don't know how i answered that(sorry i'm a newbie)
>
> >What is the native resolution of the screen itself and what
> >is the resolution you're trying to use in Xorg?
>
> My monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050 and i'm using that.

I'd get a headache too if I was at 57 Hz. I'm at 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz.

Perhaps someone who uses an LCD can comment on how to tell if sub-pixel
rendering is active.

I don't run gnome so didn't know you could change the refresh rate from
that. With my 21" CRT, I told dpkg-reconfigure to use 1600x1200 and
gave the monitor parameters from Intergraph's website.

The other piece of the puzzle is what graphics hardware do you have and
what driver are you using? I have nVidia hardware and static image
quality is the same between the free nv driver and the non-free nVidia
driver (but nVidia driver gives hardware decoding for watching movies).
The vesa driver gives much worse performance.

If you don't know for sure which driver you need, ensure that you have
the xserver-xorg-video-all package installed.

You probably also want the other recommends of xserver-xorg:
discover and xresprobe

Good luck.

Doug.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by Liam O'Toole on Thu, 2007-02-01 06:00.

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:55:08 -0500
"David Shultz" wrote:

> First of all a little bit of development. I changed the vertical
> refresh rate(on Gnome) from 50 to 57 Hz. And what you know now
> it is a lot better but not 100%. Now i'm using 1680x1050
> resolution but LG's recommended resolution is 60 Hz. Is it
> possible to change vertical refresh rate to 60Hz system wide?

Under the "Monitor" section of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, add the
following line.

VertRefresh 60

You will need to restart X for this to take effect. If you are using
GDM in its default setup, the easiest way to restart is to issue the
following command as root.

/etc/init.d/gdm restart

Warning: you will be instantly logged out when you do this!

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Liam

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by David Shultz on Thu, 2007-02-01 16:00.

First of all thanks to you all for your time and help. I really appreciate it.> The other piece of the puzzle is what graphics hardware do> you have and what driver are you using?  I have nVidia > hardware and static image quality is the same between the
> free nv driver and the non-free nVidia driver (but nVidia > driver gives hardware decoding for watching movies).I've BFG's GeForce(nvidia) 7800GS OC 256MB AGP card. when i use debian etch's "nv" driver with
1680x1050@60Hz(native for my monitor) everything on Gnome and Gnome Login Window is blurry. So i had to install nvidia's driver(from nvidia's website) and then Gnome visual improves(not 100%) but Gnome Loggin Window is
worse as before.> Under the "Monitor" section of the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf,> add the following line.>>    VertRefresh 60Okay i did that rebooted and still vertical refresh rate wont go
beyond 57Hz. Is there any other way to increase the v refresh rate? I also tried to increase the v sync rate through nvidia's "nvidia-settings" tool but couldn't as that particular option was
disabled.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by David Shultz on Thu, 2007-02-01 16:00.

On 2/1/07, John Schmidt <jaschmidt@sisna.com> wrote:> Please check to see if you have the package fontconfig-config installed.
> > If so, then do this as root:>>    dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-configI did exactly what you've instructed but no improvement.

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Fonts problem on Debian Etch

Submitted by David Shultz on Thu, 2007-02-01 23:00.

Is there anyway to fix the blurriness of Gnome Logon Screen which has the same blurriness problem I was complaining about? Is Gnome Logon Screen using a diffrent refresh rate other than Gnome? I really want to dive into the freedom of linux. Please help me.

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