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Installing TeX/LaTeX in SargeHi, Running Sarge. In Synaptic I see something named latex209-base, but it says: >From the Debian Reference: 13.9.3 TeX/LaTeX But with tasksel I only found something named tex - the TeX typesetting system LaTeX is not mentioned. Is this it? Or what else? TIA, -- Bookmark/Search this post with: 
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
* Sjoerd Hiemstra [070217 10:42]:
> Running Sarge.
> What to install when you would like to give TeX/LaTeX a try?
>
> In Synaptic I see something named latex209-base, but it says:
> LaTeX 2.09 is obsolete. Use LaTeX 2e.
> But there's no package called latex2e or something, nor do I see
> anything else that looks like it could be the main package.
The problem is that TeX and LaTeX need many supporting packages.
Previously, these supporting packages have been bundled together into
a coherent package called TeTeX, the "Te" standing for Thomas Esser.
However, Thomas Esser recently discontinued support of TeTeX. The
bundling of TeX and LaTeX has been taken up by a group which has put
together a slightly different package, which is called TeXLive. It
appears that TeTeX is to be abandoned and superceded by TeXLive.
If you install the Debian TeXLive package, you should find that LaTeX
works as it formerly did in TeTeX. I am running TeTeX under Etch on
one i386 machine, and TeXLive under Etch on another i386 machine, and
I have not seen any difference in behaviour or performance.
If it happens that TeXLive is not available for Sarge, then install
TeTeX. But when you upgrade to Etch, you need to install TeXLive.
RLH
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:57:36AM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> If you install the Debian TeXLive package, you should find that LaTeX
> works as it formerly did in TeTeX. I am running TeTeX under Etch on
> one i386 machine, and TeXLive under Etch on another i386 machine, and
> I have not seen any difference in behaviour or performance.
>
> If it happens that TeXLive is not available for Sarge, then install
> TeTeX. But when you upgrade to Etch, you need to install TeXLive.
I thought texlive was going to be the default for Lenny.
Etch has tetex 3.0, and there is(?) a repository for Sarge (well there
was cause I used it.) Have a hunt via google and tetex-maint mailing
list.
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
Hello Russel,
Am 2007-02-17 10:57:36, schrieb Russell L. Harris:
> If you install the Debian TeXLive package, you should find that LaTeX
> works as it formerly did in TeTeX. I am running TeTeX under Etch on
> one i386 machine, and TeXLive under Etch on another i386 machine, and
> I have not seen any difference in behaviour or performance.
I use TeTeX since some years but only basicly with small stuff...
Now I have to build a collection of three editons (de, en, fr) of
Education-Books of each 2500 Pages which will be splitted into 11
volumes.
It is all about Debian GNU/Linux.
I have already encountered the TeXLive stuff and have a question:
I do not know, wheter TeX is the right way to go, but I need at the end
the Books as Hard-Copies, PDF's and HTML (maybe other fromats too).
1) Do you recommend to use TeXLive or should I use another Format
like SGML or XML as recommended from some other peoples?
2) Since I know only some basics, are there documentations in PDF
HOW-TO-WRITE-THE-DOC?
3) Can you recommend Books?
(I live in Strasbourg but prefer to buy books in Germany since
they are cheaper there and i can get english versions if german
ones are not suitable)
Oops, MY question have gotten to babies... :-)
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 05:47:06PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Russel,
>
> Am 2007-02-17 10:57:36, schrieb Russell L. Harris:
> > If you install the Debian TeXLive package, you should find that LaTeX
> > works as it formerly did in TeTeX. I am running TeTeX under Etch on
> > one i386 machine, and TeXLive under Etch on another i386 machine, and
> > I have not seen any difference in behaviour or performance.
>
> I use TeTeX since some years but only basicly with small stuff...
>
> Now I have to build a collection of three editons (de, en, fr) of
> Education-Books of each 2500 Pages which will be splitted into 11
> volumes.
>
> It is all about Debian GNU/Linux.
>
> I have already encountered the TeXLive stuff and have a question:
>
> I do not know, wheter TeX is the right way to go, but I need at the end
> the Books as Hard-Copies, PDF's and HTML (maybe other fromats too).
>
> 1) Do you recommend to use TeXLive or should I use another Format
> like SGML or XML as recommended from some other peoples?
>
> 2) Since I know only some basics, are there documentations in PDF
> HOW-TO-WRITE-THE-DOC?
>
> 3) Can you recommend Books?
> (I live in Strasbourg but prefer to buy books in Germany since
> they are cheaper there and i can get english versions if german
> ones are not suitable)
Hi Michelle,
I have 2 suggestions:
I wanted to make a hard copy of the sarge installation manual. I was
able to send a pdf file to an email address assigned to a Kinko's store
(US printing chain). They were able to have it printed 2-sided with a
spiral binding and clear plastic covers. This is one way.
The other way is to use the new technology called print-on-demand. Also,
pdf is the way to go. Go to lulu.com. There are details on the process
and the cost for print real books.
Cheers,
Kev
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
Am 2007-02-21 12:25:06, schrieb Kevin Mark:
> Hi Michelle,
> I have 2 suggestions:
> I wanted to make a hard copy of the sarge installation manual. I was
> able to send a pdf file to an email address assigned to a Kinko's store
> (US printing chain). They were able to have it printed 2-sided with a
> spiral binding and clear plastic covers. This is one way.
I know this since and i have a realy performant LASER printer here.
Also I can do spiral-binding and glue-bindings.
> The other way is to use the new technology called print-on-demand. Also,
> pdf is the way to go. Go to lulu.com. There are details on the process
> and the cost for print real books.
Yeah, but this is WHY I use (Books on Demand)
which do Laser-Prints and I can get ISBN-Numbers as Author. This
books can then be ordered in regular book stores.
I asume and doing the
same stuff.
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
* Michelle Konzack [070221 11:14]:
> Hello Russel,
>
> Now I have to build a collection of three editons (de, en, fr) of
> Education-Books of each 2500 Pages which will be splitted into 11
> volumes.
>
> I do not know, wheter TeX is the right way to go, but I need at the end
> the Books as Hard-Copies, PDF's and HTML (maybe other formats too).
>
> 1) Do you recommend to use TeXLive or should I use another Format
> like SGML or XML as recommended from some other peoples?
>
> 2) Since I know only some basics, are there documentations in PDF
> HOW-TO-WRITE-THE-DOC?
>
> 3) Can you recommend Books?
Hi, Michelle.
For my own web site, all the source is LaTeX; the package "hyperlatex"
creates HTML, and the package "rubber" handles creation of PDF; see
the man page.
Several years ago, a friend designed a system to create and maintain
my web site; this was back when I was new to Debian and new to LaTeX.
The result is a Makefile which converts a set of LaTeX documents into
HTML pages and also creates PDF documents of everything. After I add
a document or make a change to a document, I execute the makefile and
recreate the entire web site, which takes only a minute or two, then I
upload the entire site to the server which hosts my web site.
The only thing which I could not do in hyperlatex was place metatags
("keyword" and "description") in the head of HTML files; hyperlatex
places the tags in the body. So I went to the local "Perlmongers"
group, and they showed me how to use Perl to move automatically
metatags from the body to the head.
As to the question of whether LaTeX/hyperlatex/rubber would be a good
approach for your book: At the present time on my web site, HTML
appears only in the web pages themselves. Most of the web pages have
links to documents which are in PDF format, and to some audio files in
MP3 format. I also provide a link which allows visitors to download
the set of web pages in PDF format. Most of the documents on my web
site are lengthy, are typeset in two columns, and have numerous
footnotes. In PDF the documents are attractive and easy to read, but
in HTML they would be ugly and difficult to read.
The hyperlatex manual is well-written and detailed; it has less than a
hundred pages. I suggest that you print out and read the manual
before you begin.
I consider the best book by far on LaTeX to be "A Guide to LaTeX" by
Helmut Kopka and Patrick W. Daly, Third Edition, published by
Addison-Wesley, 1999, ISBN 0-201-39825-7. This is the only book you
need, aside from the hyperlatex manual and the Makefile manual. I
have purchased a dozen LaTeX books, including all the most popular
ones, but Kopka & Daly is the only one I need and use. Kopka & Daly
shows in detail how to create LaTeX documents of all sort (article,
report, book, letter) and how to control the formatting.
Regards,
RLH
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Sjoerd> What to install when you would like to give TeX/LaTeX a try?
tetex is the package you want to use.
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Installing TeX/LaTeX in Sarge
Hi again, Michelle.
I think that, for such a long document (2500 pages, 11 volumes), LaTeX
makes very good sense. Using the LaTeX "\include" directive, you
could keep each volume in a separate file, and yet LaTeX would process
the set of files as one large document.
And LaTeX provides valuable features such as chapter-level tables of
contents, automated generation of an index, and automated generation
of a bibliography.
Converting the DVI output of LaTeX to PDF is easy and trouble-free,
even for very long documents.
You should read the introduction to the hyperlatex manual for a
discussion of the considerations involved when writing a single
document which is to be displayed in multiple formats.
If you needed only HTML, then XML or SGML might be a reasonable
approach. But if you need PDF as well as HTML, I think it would be
very difficult to produce satisfactory PDF documents from XML or SGML.
RLH
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