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Installing Etch on Macbook?Got one of those nifty macbooks a while ago and after peeking at First of all, this particular Macbook of mine seems to be able to run So, 15th Feb 2007 I burned Debian Etch netinst image and forced it into The Macbook section of Debian Wiki refers to some strange keyboard Mac OS/X system profiler says my Macbook hardware is of revision 2,1: Any ideas how to move on? -- -- Bookmark/Search this post with: 
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Installing Etch on Macbook?
Hello,
have you tried with the latest Mactel patch ?
do you run a i386 or an amd64 kernel ?
hth,
Jerome
Sami J. Laine wrote:
> Got one of those nifty macbooks a while ago and after peeking at
> http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook I decided to give it a go immediately.
>
> First of all, this particular Macbook of mine seems to be able to run
> GNU/Linux quite nicely: I started experimenting with Ubuntu and got it
> up and running without hazzles. So hardware is more or less ok. However,
> feeling a bit lonely in the jungles of Ubuntuish ease of use, I decided
> to quickly go back to my distribution of choice, Debian.
>
> So, 15th Feb 2007 I burned Debian Etch netinst image and forced it into
> the SuperDrive tray. Booted. Got that normal "Press F1 for help, or
> ENTER to boot: " prompt. Pressed ENTER. Twice. A couple of times more.
> After several tries it seemed obvious that whole system has frozen
> immediately after displaying the boot prompt.
>
> The Macbook section of Debian Wiki refers to some strange keyboard
> problems resulting double keypresses. However, this is not the same
> problem since keyboard completely locks up (and thus instructions in the
> Wiki are unusable since they refer user to type some extra parameters
> for kernel to boot).
>
> Mac OS/X system profiler says my Macbook hardware is of revision 2,1:
> White Macbook w/ 2GHz Intel Core2 Duo (1Gb memory, 80Gb HD but that's
> not relevant to the problem at hand I guess).
>
> Any ideas how to move on?
>
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Jerome BENOIT
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Installing Etch on Macbook?
Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> have you tried with the latest Mactel patch ?
No. I've used vanilla Debian netinst iso-image. I've burned one 15th Feb
and another one today, 26th Feb. Both function equally ie. result a
complete keyboard freeze immediately after displaying the boot prompt.
I have no idea of how to get mactel-patched kernel into netinst image.
So it's back to reading debian.org, I guess, heh.
> do you run a i386 or an amd64 kernel ?
I've used both i386 amd64 netinst iso images. Both behave similarly.
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Installing Etch on Macbook?
Hello,
sorry I did not realized that you have trouble from the very beginning.
Anyhow, there is indeed trouble with the keyboard at boot time:
a lot of stuff have been fixed very quickly, but some weird behaviours remain.
Mactel is here
www.mactel-linux.org
Any how, first you have to play with a netinst iso-image.
But before all, you have to prepare your macbook from OSX:
install bootcamp, repartition the harddrive, install refit
Have you done it ?
Actually the version of netinstall is not so important
since all stuff will be fetched via the internet:
what you really need is a working one :-)
What I mean, give a try to the latest STABLE netinstall iso-image first.
Note that you may make your choice concerning the type of distro you want:
i386 or amd64 ?
Grossly, if you want to have a multimedia laptop, then chose the i386 distro;
if you want a number cruncher laptop, chose the amd64 one.
I had some trouble with the keyboard too at boot time (and I still have):
I tried to be patient and I rebooted my macbook a lot (linux/OSX):
it seemed to be a random process. Have you tried to plug any external keyboard ?
You may find other tips on the net (see tuxmobil ?)
If it is the first time you install Debian on a computer:
try on a more ancient computer one first or find a Debian ``expert'' to guide you.
your laptop is really new box.
have fun,
Jerome
Sami J. Laine wrote:
> Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>> have you tried with the latest Mactel patch ?
>
> No. I've used vanilla Debian netinst iso-image. I've burned one 15th Feb
> and another one today, 26th Feb. Both function equally ie. result a
> complete keyboard freeze immediately after displaying the boot prompt.
>
> I have no idea of how to get mactel-patched kernel into netinst image.
> So it's back to reading debian.org, I guess, heh.
>
>> do you run a i386 or an amd64 kernel ?
>
> I've used both i386 amd64 netinst iso images. Both behave similarly.
>
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Jerome BENOIT
jgmbenoit_at_mailsnare_dot_net
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Installing Etch on Macbook?
On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:31:30PM +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>
> I had some trouble with the keyboard too at boot time (and I still have):
> I tried to be patient and I rebooted my macbook a lot (linux/OSX):
> it seemed to be a random process. Have you tried to plug any external
> keyboard ?
> You may find other tips on the net (see tuxmobil ?)
>
I experienced the same behavior, but I managed to get a newline through
by hitting the enter key repeatedly just before the prompt shows up. :-)
Is it possible to single boot debian on a mactel?
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Installing Etch on Macbook?
Hello,
Christer Stenbrenden wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 09:31:30PM +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>> I had some trouble with the keyboard too at boot time (and I still have):
>> I tried to be patient and I rebooted my macbook a lot (linux/OSX):
>> it seemed to be a random process. Have you tried to plug any external
>> keyboard ?
>> You may find other tips on the net (see tuxmobil ?)
>>
>
> I experienced the same behavior, but I managed to get a newline through
> by hitting the enter key repeatedly just before the prompt shows up. :-)
>
> Is it possible to single boot debian on a mactel?
>
My current understanding is that you need bootcamp to get
a fully featured graphic stuff: in this sense you cannot.
If I remember well you can get information about on the refit page,
and may ask to the mactel mailling list.
Any how, I guess it is a reasonnable idea to keep OSX
at least to test your hardware in case.
Note that you need the firmware provided in OSX to runs the ISight camera.
hth,
Jerome
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Jerome BENOIT
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Installing Etch on Macbook?
On Feb 26, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> have you tried with the latest Mactel patch ?
> do you run a i386 or an amd64 kernel ?
>
> Sami J. Laine wrote:
>> Got one of those nifty macbooks a while ago and after peeking at
>> http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook I decided to give it a go immediately.
>> First of all, this particular Macbook of mine seems to be able to
>> run GNU/Linux quite nicely: I started experimenting with Ubuntu
>> and got it up and running without hazzles. So hardware is more or
>> less ok. However, feeling a bit lonely in the jungles of Ubuntuish
>> ease of use, I decided to quickly go back to my distribution of
>> choice, Debian.
>> So, 15th Feb 2007 I burned Debian Etch netinst image and forced it
>> into the SuperDrive tray. Booted. Got that normal "Press F1 for
>> help, or ENTER to boot: " prompt. Pressed ENTER. Twice. A couple
>> of times more. After several tries it seemed obvious that whole
>> system has frozen immediately after displaying the boot prompt.
>> The Macbook section of Debian Wiki refers to some strange keyboard
>> problems resulting double keypresses. However, this is not the
>> same problem since keyboard completely locks up (and thus
>> instructions in the Wiki are unusable since they refer user to
>> type some extra parameters for kernel to boot).
>> Mac OS/X system profiler says my Macbook hardware is of revision
>> 2,1: White Macbook w/ 2GHz Intel Core2 Duo (1Gb memory, 80Gb HD
>> but that's not relevant to the problem at hand I guess).
>> Any ideas how to move on?
These problems are because of BootCamp bugs. Use an USB keyboard and
re-plug it in if it frozes again. It happens only when installing a
"Legacy" OS on Core 2 Duo Macs.
It doesn't occur when actually running another OS, only when booting
it (so also when LILO or GRUB appears, you sometimes may not be able
to choose proper kernel or system from LILO's/GRUB's menu).
As for now - the only solution is using external USB keyboard. So -
the system doesn't freeze, only the built-in keyboard doesn't work
(sometimes). Having or not having mactel-patches doesn't matter in
this case.
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Bartek Krawczyk
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