question about dns server at home

On Wed 2007-02-28 10:05:13 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:00:07PM +0000, David Hart wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps I've misunderstood the OPs questions but if he means hosting his
> > own domain within the public address space (.org, .com etc.) then he
> > will need publicly accessible static IPs.
> >
> No. You only need static IPs to have your own nameservers.

Which is what I think the OP means (as do others that responded).

Perhaps he'll be kind enough to clarify the situation.

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On 28 Feb 2007 07:49:09 -0800
"Jordi" wrote:

> Thanks to all for the suggestions
>
> As I am beginning, I find some confusing.
>
> I have static ip, bought it to my provider.
>
> As I use it for my server, as I want to have my domain name not
> depending on dyndns or others, and find more reliable a static ip,
> I bought a static ip.
>
> So I need that IP for my home server.
>
> If I need another IP for a dns server, and must have the dns
> server in another place or pc, I think I should not do a dns
> server. For I need my IP for my WEB server and can't have other pc
> in other home ( I just have only ONE home lol!)
>
> Now this will be a home server but maybe I try to make some
> business with it, so I must not use a free service that forbides
> wining money or use commercialy.
>
> Tell me if there is something wrong in what I said!
>
> By the way, I think I missed something...what more do I need now
> to have my server ?
> Is this? :
> 1) Contract a domain name
> 2) Contract someone to deal internet traffic from that domain name
> to my static public ip ??
>
> Can these 2 things be done by the same company for a reasonable
> year price?
> Does it matter if I am in Spain ? Should I go to a spanish domain
> seller or can I sell this services anywere?
> Do you know some good company that gives this? What is yours?
>
> Thanks to all again, you are all nice people.
>
> Jordi
>
>

I run mail and web servers without doing my own DNS. I use Total
Online Solutions http://www.tosdomains.net/index.php for my DNS.

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Jordi wrote:

> So I need that IP for my home server.
>
> If I need another IP for a dns server, and must have the dns server in
> another place or pc, I think I should not do a dns server. For I need
> my IP for my WEB server and can't have other pc in other home ( I just
> have only ONE home lol!)
>
> Now this will be a home server but maybe I try to make some business
> with it, so I must not use a free service that forbides wining money
> or use commercialy.
>
> Tell me if there is something wrong in what I said!
>
> By the way, I think I missed something...what more do I need now to
> have my server ?
> Is this? :
> 1) Contract a domain name
> 2) Contract someone to deal internet traffic from that domain name to
> my static public ip ??
>
> Can these 2 things be done by the same company for a reasonable year
> price?
> Does it matter if I am in Spain ? Should I go to a spanish domain
> seller or can I sell this services anywere?
> Do you know some good company that gives this? What is yours?
>
> Thanks to all again, you are all nice people.
>
> Jordi

1 server is sufficient. The DNS stuff hardly imposes any overhead.
My domain provider also requires 2 dns servers to point to my domain. As my
website is primarily for family and friends and therefore not mission
critical, I have simply defined two dns servers in my bind configuration,
both pointing to my single public ip (dns1.mydomain.com and
dns2.mydomain.com). Those "two" servers are listed with my provider.
If you really want to play safe you should have 2 different and external dns
servers.
In my case it is quite simple: As I run apache and bind on the same physical
machine, it either works or not! So if dns is down, my webserver and
mailserver is also down, so who cares about dns and vice versa? ;-)

I have an adsl connection (including unlimited data throughput) from one
provider and my domain registration from another. There are no particular
benefits from using only one provider for both services.

Best regards
Jan

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Jordi wrote:
> Thanks to all for the suggestions
>
> As I am beginning, I find some confusing.
>
> I have static ip, bought it to my provider.
>
> As I use it for my server, as I want to have my domain name not
> depending on dyndns or others, and find more reliable a static ip, I
> bought a static ip.
>
Good, especially if you want to run a mail-server. You might still need
to use your upstream provider as smarthost (a.k.a relayhost), but a
static ip is definitely good if you want to be taken seriously. (btw, I
believe dyndns also do static IPs).
> So I need that IP for my home server.
>
> If I need another IP for a dns server, and must have the dns server in
> another place or pc, I think I should not do a dns server. For I need
> my IP for my WEB server and can't have other pc in other home ( I just
> have only ONE home lol!)
>
> Now this will be a home server but maybe I try to make some business
> with it, so I must not use a free service that forbides wining money
> or use commercialy.
>
>
Check out Zoneedit.com. They do both free and very cheap. I have no
affiliation, I'm just a happy customer. They have just recently started
doing registrar-business, I haven't tried that part, but I am happy with
the rest of what they provide.
> Tell me if there is something wrong in what I said!
>
> By the way, I think I missed something...what more do I need now to
> have my server ?
> Is this? :
> 1) Contract a domain name
>
I.e. you need a registrar.
> 2) Contract someone to deal internet traffic from that domain name to
> my static public ip ??
>
>
I.e. you need a DNS-service.
> Can these 2 things be done by the same company for a reasonable year
> price?
>
Yes. Like I said, check out Zoneedit.com. Others have given you other
suggestions. Shop around. At the same time, I recommend reading up on
TCP-IP networking, DNS etc. It helps a lot if you understand exactly
what it is you are paying for.
> Does it matter if I am in Spain ? Should I go to a spanish domain
> seller or can I sell this services anywere?
>
If you want .com or .net, you need a US-based registrar. If you want
.es, you need a spanish one. There are probably spanish
registrars/domain-resellers that will help you register .com or .net
domains, but it will probably be cheaper to go with a US-based one. No
matter which registrar you pick, it is technically possible for them to
set SOA to a DNS-server at a completely different company. The policy of
certain registrars or DNS providers might be more restrictive though.
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