Hi. I was looking for a notebook I found two good deals: Toshiba Satellite
A135-S4527 and Sony VAIO N220E/B, both for the same price (after rebate)
$599.99.
I wonder which one would have better Linux compatibility (and maybe better
performance).
Their specifications are listed below.
Felipe
*** Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527 *************************
Processor Brand: Intel
Processor Class: Pentium Dual-Core
Processor Number: T2080
Processor Speed: 1.73 GHz
Front Side Bus: 533 MHz
Mobile Technology: Centrino
L2 Cache Size: 1 MB
System Chipset: Intel 943GML Express
Memory Speed: PC2-4200 (533MHz)
Memory Type: DDR2-SDRAM
Installed Memory: 1 GB
Maximum Memory: 2 GB
Memory Slots Total: 2
Hard Drive Capacity: 120 GB
Drive Controllers: SATA-150
Rotational Speed: 5400 RPM
Optical Drives: Double Layer DVD SuperMulti Drive:
Create a Double Layer DVD+R at a maximum 4X Write speed
Create a Double Layer DVD-R at a maximum 4X Write speed
Create a DVD-R at a maximum 8X Write speed or a maximum 6X Rewrite speed
Create a DVD+R at a maximum 8X Write speed or a maximum 8X Rewrite speed
Create a DVD-RAM at a maximum 5X Write speed
Play a DVD at a maximum 8X Read speed
Create a CD-Rom at a maximum 24X Write speed
Create a CD-RW at a maximum 16X Rewrite speed
Play a CD-Rom at a maximum 24X Read speed
Additional Drives: DL DVD SuperMulti
Sound Support: Digital Audio (16-bit)
Video Chipset Brand: Intel
Video Chipset: Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950
Shared Video RAM (Max): 256 MB
Resolution: 1280 x 800
Screen Size: 15.4 in
Screen Type: TruBrite Screen Technology
Physical Aspect Ratio: 16:10 (Widescreen)
Port Connectors: Video:
1 x RGB (monitor) output
1 x S-Video output
Audio:
1 x Microphone input
1 x Headphone output
Data:
1 x i.LINK™ IEEE-1394
4 x USB v2.0
1 x RJ-45 LAN
1 x RJ-11 modem
Card Slots: 1 x Memory Stick
1 x Memory Stick PRO
1 x Secure Digital(SD)/MMC
1 x xD-Picture Card
1 x Type II / Type 1 PC Card
Network Support: Ethernet (10/100 Mbps)
Wireless Protocol: 802.11b
802.11g
Modem Speed: 56 Kbps
Input Devices: Keyboard
Touchpad
Number of Batteries: 1
Installed Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium
Chassis Color: Mist Gray
In the Box: 65W external AC adapter
6-cell (4000mAh) rechargeable, removable Lithium-Ion battery pack
Height: 1.5 in
Width: 14.2 in
Depth: 10.5 in
Weight: 6.0 lbs
Limited Warranty: 1 Year (12 Months)
*** Sony VAIO N220E/B ***************************
Processor Brand: Intel
Processor Class: Pentium Dual-Core
Processor Number: T2060
Processor Speed: 1.6 GHz
Front Side Bus: 533 MHz
Mobile Technology: Other
L2 Cache Size: 1 MB
System Chipset: Intel 943GML Express
Memory Speed: PC2-4200 (533MHz)
Memory Type: DDR2-SDRAM
Installed Memory: 1 GB
Maximum Memory: 2 GB
Memory Slots Total: 2
Memory Slots Available: 0
Hard Drive Capacity: 80 GB
Drive Controllers: SATA-150
Rotational Speed: 5400 RPM
Optical Drives: Double Layer DVD SuperMulti Drive:
Create a DVD+R DL at a maximum 4X Write speed
Create a DVD-R DL at a maximum 4X Write speed
Create a DVD+R at a maximum 8X Write speed or a maximum 8X Rewrite speed
Create a DVD-R at a maximum 8X Write speed or a maximum 6X Rewrite speed
Create a DVD-RAM at a maximum 5X Write speed
Play a DVD-Rom at a maximum 8X Read speed
Create a CD-Rom at a maximum 24X Write speed
Create a CD-RW at a maximum 16X Rewrite speed
Play a CD-Rom at a maximum 24X Read speed
Additional Drives: DL DVD SuperMulti
Sound Support: Digital Audio (16-bit)
Video Chipset Brand: Intel
Video Chipset: Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950
Total Available Graphics Memory (Vista): 224 MB
Resolution: 1280 x 800
Screen Size: 15.4 in
Screen Type: Active Matrix LCD (TFT)
Port Connectors: 1 x VGA out with Smart Display Sensor
1 x i.LINK® connector (IEEE 1394) (4 pin)
2 x USB 2.0
1 x RJ-45 Ethernet LAN
1 x RJ-11 Modem
1 x Audio - Headphone jack
1 x Audio - Microphone input
1 x DC-in
Card Slots: 1 x MagicGate Memory Stick
1 x Memory Stick PRO
1 x Memory Stick PRO Duo
1 x Secure Digital (SD)
1 x ExpressCard/34
Network Support: Ethernet (10/100 Mbps)
Wireless Protocol: 802.11b
802.11g
Modem Speed: 56 Kbps
Input Devices: Keyboard
Touchpad
Number of Batteries: 1
Installed Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium
Included Software: Anti-Virus and Recovery Software:
Norton® Internet Security™ 2007 60-Day Subscription - Norton AntiVirus®,
Norton Personal Firewall, Norton Privacy Control, Norton AntiSpam®, Norton
Parental Control
Supplied Applications:
Microsoft® Works 8.5 - Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Calendar, Scheduling,
Contact Management, and Database
Sony® Original Software:
Click to DVD™ - DVD Creation
Chassis Color: Black
In the Box: Sony VAIO N220E/B Notebook
Standard Lithium-ion battery (VGP-BPS2A/S)
AC adapter
Power Cord
Height: 1.6 in
Width: 14.4 in
Depth: 10.5 in
Weight: 6.5 lbs
Limited Warranty: 1 Year (12 Months)
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 05:18:28PM -0300, Carlos Felipe S. Pinheiro wrote:
> $599.99.
wow
> *** Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527 *************************
looks the best deal to me.
HTH
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Sony or Toshiba? (corrected)
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 17:18 -0300, Carlos Felipe S. Pinheiro wrote:
> Hi. I was looking for a notebook I found two good deals: Toshiba Satellite
> A135-S4527 and Sony VAIO N220E/B, both for the same price (after rebate)
> $599.99.
> I wonder which one would have better Linux compatibility (and maybe better
> performance).
Hi Felipe,
If we cut those lists down to the parts that actually are different...
> *** Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527 *************************
> Processor Speed: 1.73 GHz
> Hard Drive Capacity: 120 GB
> 4 x USB v2.0
> 6-cell (4000mAh) rechargeable, removable Lithium-Ion battery pack
> Weight: 6.0 lbs
> *** Sony VAIO N220E/B ***************************
> Processor Speed: 1.6 GHz
> Hard Drive Capacity: 80 GB
> 2 x USB 2.0
> Standard Lithium-ion battery (VGP-BPS2A/S)
> Weight: 6.5 lbs
The Toshiba Satellite would seem to be a _clear_ winner. 10% faster
CPU, 50% more HD, 10% lighter, 100% more USB ports...
I'm not sure of the battery equivalences, but the Sony is unlikely to be
vastly different.
Other notes:
- The card slots probably won't work under Linux, except to read SD (&
MMC?) cards where there are some under-development drivers that I have
had some success with on a different laptop.
- You may need to install Xorg 7.3 to get the graphics running
properly, or perhaps use 915resolution (but really, Xorg7.3 is a better
solution).
Everything else should work OK.
Cheers,
Andrew McMillan.
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Sony or Toshiba? (corrected)
Hi Andrew.
Thank you for the hints.
And for those who are interested in such a bargain, check out CircuitCity.
cheers
Felipe
On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:18:53 +1200
Andrew McMillan wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 17:18 -0300, Carlos Felipe S. Pinheiro wrote:
> > Hi. I was looking for a notebook I found two good deals: Toshiba
Satellite
> > A135-S4527 and Sony VAIO N220E/B, both for the same price (after
rebate)
> > $599.99.
> > I wonder which one would have better Linux compatibility (and maybe
better
> > performance).
>
> Hi Felipe,
>
> If we cut those lists down to the parts that actually are different...
>
> > *** Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527 *************************
> > Processor Speed: 1.73 GHz
> > Hard Drive Capacity: 120 GB
> > 4 x USB v2.0
> > 6-cell (4000mAh) rechargeable, removable Lithium-Ion battery pack
> > Weight: 6.0 lbs
>
>
> > *** Sony VAIO N220E/B ***************************
> > Processor Speed: 1.6 GHz
> > Hard Drive Capacity: 80 GB
> > 2 x USB 2.0
> > Standard Lithium-ion battery (VGP-BPS2A/S)
> > Weight: 6.5 lbs
>
>
> The Toshiba Satellite would seem to be a _clear_ winner. 10% faster
> CPU, 50% more HD, 10% lighter, 100% more USB ports...
>
> I'm not sure of the battery equivalences, but the Sony is unlikely to
be
> vastly different.
>
> Other notes:
>
> - The card slots probably won't work under Linux, except to read SD
(&
> MMC?) cards where there are some under-development drivers that I have
> had some success with on a different laptop.
>
> - You may need to install Xorg 7.3 to get the graphics running
> properly, or perhaps use 915resolution (but really, Xorg7.3 is a
better
> solution).
>
> Everything else should work OK.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew McMillan.
>
>
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Carlos Felipe Saraiva Pinheiro wrote:
Hi Andrew.
Thank you for the hints.
And for those who are interested in such a bargain, check out CircuitCity.
cheers
Felipe
On Wed, 02 May 2007 16:18:53 +1200
Andrew McMillan <andrew@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 17:18 -0300, Carlos Felipe S. Pinheiro wrote:
Hi. I was looking for a notebook I found two good deals: Toshiba
Satellite
A135-S4527 and Sony VAIO N220E/B, both for the same price (after
rebate)
$599.99.
I wonder which one would have better Linux compatibility (and maybe
better
performance).
Hi Felipe,
If we cut those lists down to the parts that actually are different...
*** Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527 *************************
Processor Speed: 1.73 GHz
Hard Drive Capacity: 120 GB
4 x USB v2.0
6-cell (4000mAh) rechargeable, removable Lithium-Ion battery pack
Weight: 6.0 lbs
*** Sony VAIO N220E/B ***************************
Processor Speed: 1.6 GHz
Hard Drive Capacity: 80 GB
2 x USB 2.0
Standard Lithium-ion battery (VGP-BPS2A/S)
Weight: 6.5 lbs
The Toshiba Satellite would seem to be a _clear_ winner. 10% faster
CPU, 50% more HD, 10% lighter, 100% more USB ports...
I'm not sure of the battery equivalences, but the Sony is unlikely to
be
vastly different.
Other notes:
- The card slots probably won't work under Linux, except to read SD
(&
MMC?) cards where there are some under-development drivers that I have
had some success with on a different laptop.
- You may need to install Xorg 7.3 to get the graphics running
properly, or perhaps use 915resolution (but really, Xorg7.3 is a
better
solution).
Everything else should work OK.
Cheers,
Andrew McMillan.
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Wellington
WEB: http://catalyst.net.nz/ PHYS: Level 2, 150-154 Willis
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Wow, that's a great deal. Could really buy into that but no money for
computers now.
Would really like to replace the Gateway. Under Linux the keyboard,
touchpad and face of the computer are extremely sensitive;i.e.; if
one's finger touches the bezel around the touchpad it will jump to
another open application; likewise say I'm using the terminal, if the
cursor gets moved out of the terminal window, keyboard entry stops
until the cursor is again placed in the terminal area.
Jim
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> Would really like to replace the Gateway. Under Linux the keyboard, touchpad
> and face of the computer are extremely sensitive;i.e.; if one's finger touches
> the bezel around the touchpad it will jump to another open application; likewise
> say I'm using the terminal, if the cursor gets moved out of the terminal window,
> keyboard entry stops until the cursor is again placed in the terminal area.
- - Take care to buy a laptop with a touchpad that is *not* leveled with
the surface, but slightly lower. (So you won't touch it accidentally)
- - Take care to buy a laptop with a touchpad that is *centered* below the
letter 'b'. (So you won't touch it when you type with 10 fingers.)
- - Take care to buy a laptop that has a touchpad with palm and
multifinger detection that works on linx. (So even if the above fail it
won't shoot your mouse into nirvana)
My thinkpad has all these features, that one would think are a must for
any laptop. I know quite a few other brands that don't follow those
rules, and not following these rules is one of the reasons why so many
people deactivate their touchpad and use an external mouse.
Johannes
NB: My first unbranded laptop bought in 1999 didn't have palm detection,
but followed at least the other rules. I don't want to know how later
generations of laptop designers could get the idea of putting a leveled
touchpad right or left of the center position in a way it is unavoidable
to touch it while typing.
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Jim Moore wrote:
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> This topic is several days old now, so shall contact you off-list. Could you
> further explain what you mean by a touchpad with palm and multi-finger detection.
Never mind, that the thread is a few days old: back to list.
palm detection: the touchpad distinguishes a touch with a finger from an
accidental touch with the palm of your hand or something else and
ignores the latter. Only if I touch my touchpad with a finger or the tip
of the thumb, it moves the mouse, switches focus etc. but if I
accidentally touch it with my palm or the side of my thumb the contact
is ignored and doesn't disrupt typing -- very cool.
multi-finger detection: I can configure my touchpad so that tapping with
two fingers is interpreted as a middle mouse click, three fingers are a
right mouse click etc. Especially useful for touchpads without middle
mouse button.
I thought that all modern touchpads would offer these features, but
recently learned that this is not the case or that at least not all
touchpads have linux drivers that support those.
HTH,
Johannes
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Hello,
You should google to check that Video, Wireless and LAN chipset are well
supported. Also check Modem if it matters to you.
Hibernation always works now. But if you really need suspend, google for
it (ACPI suspend and SATA...) as it can be difficult to get is working
sometime.
If you can't find linux-compatibility information about a specific
model, search for similar model (!).
A live CD might help (at least you can lspci to help googling ;)
Hope those hints will help.
Franklin
On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 17:18 -0300, Carlos Felipe S. Pinheiro wrote:
> Hi. I was looking for a notebook I found two good deals: Toshiba Satellite
> A135-S4527 and Sony VAIO N220E/B, both for the same price (after rebate)
> $599.99.
> I wonder which one would have better Linux compatibility (and maybe better
> performance).
> Their specifications are listed below.
>
> Felipe
>
> *** Toshiba Satellite A135-S4527 *************************
> Processor Class: Pentium Dual-Core
> Drive Controllers: SATA-150
> Sound Support: Digital Audio (16-bit)
> Video Chipset Brand: Intel
> Video Chipset: Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950
> Network Support: Ethernet (10/100 Mbps)
> Wireless Protocol: 802.11b 802.11g
> Modem Speed: 56 Kbps
> *** Sony VAIO N220E/B ***************************
>
> Processor Brand: Intel
> Processor Class: Pentium Dual-Core
> Sound Support: Digital Audio (16-bit)
> Video Chipset Brand: Intel
> Video Chipset: Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950
> 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet LAN
> 1 x RJ-11 Modem
> Network Support: Ethernet (10/100 Mbps)
> Wireless Protocol: 802.11b 802.11g
> Modem Speed: 56 Kbps
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Yes that one looks nice. I like it's equipped with many I/O.
Here are the specs
looks like it runs an onboard Intel GMA950 graphic chip but does it have any seperate graphic mem ? They only mention shared one.
Here's a review
Anyway, if you got one please drop a note on http://www.linux-laptop.net your model isn't in yet.
Personally i would be interested in your opinion concerning screen glare.
(ps. lookup "dual channel mode" RAM and consider to upgrade to 2x1G)
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 08:13:38 -0300, Michael wrote:
>
> Yes that one looks nice. I like it's equipped with many I/O.
>
> Here are the specs
>
> looks like it runs an onboard Intel GMA950 graphic chip but does it have
> any seperate graphic mem ? They only mention shared one.
It seems to have a dynamic memory system for video (8 - 256 M). So, I
believe it's only shared memory.
> Anyway, if you got one please drop a note on
> http://www.linux-laptop.net your model isn't in yet.
> Personally i would be interested in your opinion concerning screen glare.
Sure thing. As soon as I get Linux running nicely on it.
cheers
Felipe
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Franklin PIAT :
> If you can't find linux-compatibility information about a specific
> model, search for similar model (!).
It's a safer bet to search for reviews of the exact components.
Anything else might be waste of time.
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