Etch back to Sarge

I need to downgrade from Etch back to Sarge. The only resource I have is the original Sarge install CD. How can I use this CD to reinstall Sarge (over Etch) without using any data?

My intuition tells me all I need to do is skip the partition phase of the install, and things should be okay; however to do so requires that a root filesystem must be mounted. Is there a boot option I can pass to the installer to tell it to mount my already existing system? Thanks in advance.

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Etch back to Sarge

On Monday 30 April 2007 16:41, bigoperm wrote:
> I need to downgrade from Etch back to Sarge. The only resource I have is
> the original Sarge install CD. How can I use this CD to reinstall Sarge
> (over Etch) without using any data?

There is no (official) downgrade path, only upgrade.

> My intuition tells me all I need to do is skip the partition phase of the
> install, and things should be okay; however to do so requires that a root
> filesystem must be mounted. Is there a boot option I can pass to the
> installer to tell it to mount my already existing system? Thanks in
> advance.

You could install sarge into a partition that has etch and just don't format
it, I don't recommend that though. I think the best way is a good backup of
your data and a fresh install of sarge.

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 01:41:48AM +0200, bigoperm wrote:
>
> I need to downgrade from Etch back to Sarge. The only resource I have is
> the original Sarge install CD. How can I use this CD to reinstall Sarge
> (over Etch) without using any data?
>
> My intuition tells me all I need to do is skip the partition phase of the
> install, and things should be okay; however to do so requires that a root
> filesystem must be mounted. Is there a boot option I can pass to the
> installer to tell it to mount my already existing system? Thanks in advance.

Downgrading isn't supported.

Is that a typo: "without using any data" to be "without loosing any
data"?

You need backups of all your data.

Now for the obvious question: why do you feel the need to downgrade?

Doug.

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Doug,
I figured I'd get thie question :-) After my upgrade to Etch, my network card no longer works (it's a Xircom PCMCIA card (cardbus)). I've searched the message boards for solutions, but can't find anything that solves my problem. Unfortunately, I don't have time to figure out what's wrong, I just need my machine to work. Downgrading back to Sarge seems like the best option.

jerome

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 08:32:06PM +0200, bigoperm wrote:
> I figured I'd get thie question :-) After my upgrade to Etch, my network
> card no longer works (it's a Xircom PCMCIA card (cardbus)). I've searched
> the message boards for solutions, but can't find anything that solves my
> problem. Unfortunately, I don't have time to figure out what's wrong, I
> just need my machine to work. Downgrading back to Sarge seems like the best
> option.

I ran into a similar problem when I upgraded my 486 from Sarge to Etch
and the upgrade hosed libc6 which is ofcourse fatal to the whole system.
Since neiter Etch nor Sarge's installer workes on this box (too little
memory), I'm trying out NetBSD.

Before you downgrade or reinstall, copy your /var/log and /etc files so
you can still work on this, or provide to someone working on this.
Remember that Sarge will only get security support for another year or
two (I forget which) so you'll want a solution by then.

Good luck,

Doug.

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2007/5/1, bigoperm <bigoperm@yahoo.com>:
I need to downgrade from Etch back to Sarge. The only resource I have is the original Sarge install CD. How can I use this CD to reinstall Sarge (over Etch) without using any data?I did something very close to this using a local repository for apt, putted in the repository several stable packages (KDE packages, I was on testing and wanted to be closest as possible to stable cause KDE was giving me serious problem) and removed any reference to testing from
sources.listI then forced the installation of those packages using apt-get and dpkg, apt-get and the meeting of dependencies did the rest, downgrading packages in testing.This worked for me and surely a massive dist-downgrade will need more job but if you don't want to do a fresh install this could be a way to go.
regardsraffaele

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bigoperm wrote:

>
> I need to downgrade from Etch back to Sarge. The only resource I have is
> the original Sarge install CD. How can I use this CD to reinstall Sarge
> (over Etch) without using any data?
>
> My intuition tells me all I need to do is skip the partition phase of the
> install, and things should be okay; however to do so requires that a root
> filesystem must be mounted. Is there a boot option I can pass to the
> installer to tell it to mount my already existing system? Thanks in
> advance.
>
>

My advice would be to backup data. And backup to whole of /etc

Then run the sarge install.

Choose to reformat all partitions apart from the /home partition if that is
where your data is.

(If you're running DB's or some email servers there may be data in /var).

Then carefully re-adding your users accounts -(using the uid switch to match
the /home directory if needed) should get you back to a sarge system.

Kevin

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Kevin,
Thanks for the advice - this is what I was thinking, actually. I have full backups of /etc, /var, and /home. Is it enough to re-install Sarge (formatting all of the disks), and copying my backups back over? Should that just work? Thanks

jerome

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bigoperm wrote:

>
> Kevin,
> Thanks for the advice - this is what I was thinking, actually. I have full
> backups of /etc, /var, and /home. Is it enough to re-install Sarge
> (formatting all of the disks), and copying my backups back over? Should
> that just work? Thanks
>
> jerome
>
>

Just watch out for permissions and file ownership.

Good luck.

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On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:28:30PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 20:32:06 +0200, bigoperm wrote:
> >
> > Doug,
> > I figured I'd get thie question :-) After my upgrade to Etch, my network
> > card no longer works (it's a Xircom PCMCIA card (cardbus)). I've searched
> > the message boards for solutions, but can't find anything that solves my
> > problem. Unfortunately, I don't have time to figure out what's wrong, I
> > just need my machine to work. Downgrading back to Sarge seems like the best
> > option.
>
> It is certainly an approach that befits a boorish debianhelp.org user
> who does not know how to quote properly when posting on a mailing list.

ouch... testy today Florian? :)

I thought you had already blackholed all the debianhelp.org posts. I
haven't been to look, and don't care to, but I assume its a web forum
type thing? ... /me goes to look after all... oh that's annoying. He
should put up some stuff about mailing list etiquette since its a live
gateway to this list. I know that proper quoting sucks in a web forum,
since its all laid out there for you already, but in the
forum-to-ml issue, its obviously important.

A

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On Wednesday 02 May 2007 14:39, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:28:30PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 20:32:06 +0200, bigoperm wrote:
> > > Doug,
> > > I figured I'd get thie question :-) After my upgrade to Etch, my
> > > network card no longer works (it's a Xircom PCMCIA card (cardbus)).
> > > I've searched the message boards for solutions, but can't find anything
> > > that solves my problem. Unfortunately, I don't have time to figure out
> > > what's wrong, I just need my machine to work. Downgrading back to Sarge
> > > seems like the best option.

Well, you could downgrade...

But my suspicion is that if you change your kernel to the i486 for Etch, you
problem may be solved. I could find no documentation on this either, but I
had it with my Thinkpad 600 and cardbus NIC, and it took me days to figure it
out. It just wasn't being seen. The i486 kernel, for whatever reason, found
it.

aptitude install linux-image-486

But, if that doesn't work, a system downgrade can be accomplished. Modify your
sources.list for sarge sources, then google 'apt-pin' and learn how to 'pin'
sarge or oldstable packages. Not easy. Not fun. Try to remove unnecessary
packages before you do it.

More info here:
http://matthewpoer.freehostia.com/wordpress/index.php/computers-technology/abandon-ship-give-me-back-my-dapper-drake

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