Lightweight RTF Editor in Debian?

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 06:51:56PM +0300, David Baron wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been looking for a lightweight RTF text editor for Lenny for
> > quite a while now. Currently, I am using AbiWord, but all the
> > dependencies on Gnome libraries are somewhat unpleasant (I'm using
> > FluxBox as my WM). I have tried Ted, but I can't even get it to open a
> > document. Are there any other lightweight editors that speak RTF?
>
> I have not tried AbiWord. Probably should.

It is a good and decent word processor; the only thing that bugs me is
that it requires massive amounts of libraries that I don't otherwise
need.

> Problem with RTF is that it's Microsoft's language and they will do with it
> whatever they please and you'd better learn to like it.[...]

Yes. AbiWord exports to two different versions of RTF and there is
still a lot that's liable to get lost. But the alternative would be to
use OpenOffice's Word export - and I've had nothing but trouble with
that. My boss likes his MS Office and his 'rich' formatting -
otherwise, I'd gladly hand in all my papers in plain text. *shrugs*
All things considered, AbiWord is the lesser of the available evils. I
just wish it didn't come with all the stuff I really don't need or
want.

Thanks,
-Juergen

On Wednesday 30 May 2007, wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have been looking for a lightweight RTF text editor for Lenny for
> > quite a while now. Currently, I am using AbiWord, but all the
> > dependencies on Gnome libraries are somewhat unpleasant (I'm using
> > FluxBox as my WM). I have tried Ted, but I can't even get it to open a
> > document. Are there any other lightweight editors that speak RTF?
>
> did you test TED?

Just did. Brings in the right overall format but font sizes are not
necessarily correct. Main problem is that it not handle the character
codepages (for a Windows Hebrew document). Probably decent for good old
English.

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On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:07:16PM -0300, Mat?as Palomec wrote:
> On 5/30/07, Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have been looking for a lightweight RTF text editor for Lenny for
> >quite a while now. Currently, I am using AbiWord, but all the
> >dependencies on Gnome libraries are somewhat unpleasant (I'm using
> >FluxBox as my WM). I have tried Ted, but I can't even get it to open a
> >document. Are there any other lightweight editors that speak RTF?
>
> did you test TED?

Yep. Just doesn't work for me: If I try (for example) 'ted
Network.rtf', I get much output on my console, looking roughly like
this:

-----
docRtfUtil.c(1302) rrc->rrcCurrentLine=3 controlWord="fttruetype"
docRtfUtil.c(1302) rrc->rrcCurrentLine=4 controlWord="fttruetype"
[...]
docRtfUtil.c(1302) rrc->rrcCurrentLine=95
controlWord="abinodiroverride"
appFont.c(812) aff->affFontFamilyName="Times"
afe->afeXfontFamilies=0x0
appFont.c(813) encoding=8
PS_Encodings[encoding].fcX11Registry="iso8859"
appFont.c(814) encoding=8 PS_Encodings[encoding].fcX11Encoding="15"
appFont.c(1111) psf->affFontFamilyName="Times" dsf->apfFontEncoding=8
appFont.c(1167) 1=1
tedLayout.c(995) attributeNumber=0
sfl->sflAttributeToScreen[attributeNumber]=-1
tedLayout.c(1022) part=0 textAttr=0
tedLayout.c(852) 1=1
docLayoutParagraphs.c( 82) 1=1
docLayoutParagraphs.c(142) 1=1
docLayoutParagraphs.c(494) 1=1
docLayout.c(825) 1=1
docLayout.c(805) 1=1
docLayoutSect.c(148) i=0
docLayout.c(836) 1=1
docLayout.c(732) 1=1
docLayout.c(797) 1=1
docLayout.c(932) 1=1
tedLayout.c(1071) 1=1
tedPage.c(332) 1=1
tedDocument.c(571) 1=1
appDocument.c(579) ed->edFilename="/root/Network.rtf"
appDocument.c(752) filename="/root/Network.rtf"
-----

I see the main window with the menu bar, but the document itself never
opens. Getting that to work would definitely be a splendid thing.
Would you happen to be able to tell from the output I pasted what I
might be doing wrong?

Thanks,
-Juergen

On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 08:17:33PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:45:08AM -0400, Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> >
> > I have been looking for a lightweight RTF text editor for Lenny for
> > quite a while now. Currently, I am using AbiWord, but all the
> > dependencies on Gnome libraries are somewhat unpleasant (I'm using
> > FluxBox as my WM). I have tried Ted, but I can't even get it to open a
> > document. Are there any other lightweight editors that speak RTF?
> >
>
> What about latex2rtf for outputing rtf and wv, catdoc, or unrtf to get latex?

I'd considered that, but I think having to install Latex to create
documents when all my boss wants is page breaks, centered text and
different font sizes runs counter to my intention to keep it as small
as possible.

> I suppose the question is, in what way do you create non-rtf documents
> and can that method also work with rtf?

There's a thought. I create my 'regular' text files in vim, and it
looks like RTF is a text based markup language. Maybe I could just
learn to write it directly.

> Searching aptitude, re Ted it says that "going the other way" i.e.
> opening existing documents is more difficult.

I'm not surprised. But I can't even start a new document in Ted. Still
no idea what I am doing wrong.

Thanks,
-Juergen